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Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by WilliamEdward »

madmax108 wrote: post #424

Every new release of Firefox makes the experience better and better. I'm glad Mozilla has started focusing on the browser again, not just as an "open alternative to chrome" but as the "best possible browser", which I truly believe Firefox today is :) Every new release reminds me of this comic: http://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/ As a tweet I read today[1] : "Mozilla seems to be under the assumption that ther…

I want to believe firefox is the best but Chrome's user interface is simply too smooth and clean and firefox has not been able to match that.

There are some details that you will only notice if you have used FF and chrome in equal amounts for a long time, such as being able to easily merge two windows in Chrome (in one click vs two), or clumsy bookmarks and search history settings in FF, etc.

Also there's a significantly slower drop-down url menu in firefox?? How does no one notice this? I click on a result and a list of other results take its place and send me to the wrong page, before the change even appears in the url box.

There will be people who ask me to elaborate on my points here, but I'm so tired of doing that for Firefox supporters and curious chrome users. If you want to feel why Chrome is simply better, just use it and compare it to Firefox.

As long as both browsers are able to do everything, a good UI is the only deciding factor for me. So many people in this thread are echoing what I've said.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by tempestn »

One frustration I have is that Firefox Mobile doesn't yet support Android Oreo autofill, which means it doesn't work with any of the major password managers. If you use FF Desktop it's convenient to use it on mobile as well given that history and such can be easily synced, but having to go back to copying and pasting passwords manually is quite a pain. Would love to see that implemented soon.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by IChrisI »

derefr wrote: post #363
lucideer wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big issue here is that Chrome's extension API (which Firefox adopted) doesn't allow this directly, so any extensions trying this need to: 1. rebuild the UI from scratch 2. rebuild basic tab handling behaviour from scratch 3. build tab stacking on top of that 4. (ideally) hide Firefox's existing tab bar And there's two issues with the above steps: (a) 4 hasn't been possible with the new extensions API sofar (it wa…

I'm not clear on why you would want TST as an extension rather than built into the browser chrome. It'd be like wanting the tab bar, or the address bar, to be an extension. Those things belong in the browser chrome; they're what the browser chrome "layer" is for . Just dig into the Firefox code and add TST to the browser itself. (It wouldn't be all that much work; it'd just be 1. adding "parent" and "children" proper…

Given that Tree Style Tab has 7,500+ commits, 10 pull requests (200 closed), almost 400 issues (almost 1,500 closed), and the download is 5.6 megs (2.7 megs zipped), there may be more to it than your two-step solution.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by Dylan16807 »

molteanu wrote: post #428
madmax108 wrote: post #424

Every new release of Firefox makes the experience better and better. I'm glad Mozilla has started focusing on the browser again, not just as an "open alternative to chrome" but as the "best possible browser", which I truly believe Firefox today is :) Every new release reminds me of this comic: http://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/ As a tweet I read today[1] : "Mozilla seems to be under the assumption that ther…

I don't want Mozilla to win. They broke backwards compatibility with the new Servo or whatever. That's a bug. You wouldn't say that the new train carriage, which only works on the Bosnian gauge and not on the Standard gauge (EU, US) "makes the experience better and better" even if they have free wi-fi, air-conditioning, plenty of feet space, leather seats, panoramic sunroof etc. You can't even use it, so all the extr…

I understood your post until the last line.

The new versions of Firefox have almost the same plugin interface as Chromium. If you're satisfied with it, then why aren't you satisfied with it?

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by nachtigall »

patleeman wrote: post #366
lucideer wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big issue here is that Chrome's extension API (which Firefox adopted) doesn't allow this directly, so any extensions trying this need to: 1. rebuild the UI from scratch 2. rebuild basic tab handling behaviour from scratch 3. build tab stacking on top of that 4. (ideally) hide Firefox's existing tab bar And there's two issues with the above steps: (a) 4 hasn't been possible with the new extensions API sofar (it wa…

For 4, you’re able to hide the Firefox tab bar with some css in userChrome.css now. I’m using tree style tabs and have hidden the default tabs as my daily driver.

Yes, here's a link on how to do this, takes 5min:

https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/wiki/Code-snippets-fo...

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by ignaloidas »

molteanu wrote: post #428
madmax108 wrote: post #424

Every new release of Firefox makes the experience better and better. I'm glad Mozilla has started focusing on the browser again, not just as an "open alternative to chrome" but as the "best possible browser", which I truly believe Firefox today is :) Every new release reminds me of this comic: http://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/ As a tweet I read today[1] : "Mozilla seems to be under the assumption that ther…

I don't want Mozilla to win. They broke backwards compatibility with the new Servo or whatever. That's a bug. You wouldn't say that the new train carriage, which only works on the Bosnian gauge and not on the Standard gauge (EU, US) "makes the experience better and better" even if they have free wi-fi, air-conditioning, plenty of feet space, leather seats, panoramic sunroof etc. You can't even use it, so all the extr…

You know that modifying the gauge for train carriages is really quite easy? Same with browser - it's really easy to modify Firefox to work as you want it to.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by AbuAssar »

kentosi wrote: post #172

Good work guys. For those using Firefox, I have one question. Is there any way to replicate Chrome's tab-to-search feature? It's literally the ONLY reason I'm still on Chrome. Let me explain by showing how I would search for "apples" in youtube across both browsers. Firefox: 1 - Ctrl+L (go to location bar) 2 - Type "you", press "down" to select youtube from history. 3 - Wait for site to load...... 4 - Click on search…

you can add it manually by clicking on the page options button (the three dots in the address bar)

then choose "Add Search Engine"

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by ripdog »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #238
kiriakasis wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is supporting direct feedback. How can mozzila know which features are useful in your opinion? how should they know that you wanted [feature X]? Maybe they are also in the wrong if the telemetry is excessive, but the alternative is to never deprecate any feature ever.

They could ask.

Ask who? Power users? Then the only signal they would get is "every feature is used by everyone". That's worthless 'data'. Telemetry is the only way mozilla could possibly collect real data.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by molteanu »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #434
molteanu wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want Mozilla to win. They broke backwards compatibility with the new Servo or whatever. That's a bug. You wouldn't say that the new train carriage, which only works on the Bosnian gauge and not on the Standard gauge (EU, US) "makes the experience better and better" even if they have free wi-fi, air-conditioning, plenty of feet space, leather seats, panoramic sunroof etc. You can't even use it, so all the extr…

I understood your post until the last line. The new versions of Firefox have almost the same plugin interface as Chromium. If you're satisfied with it, then why aren't you satisfied with it?

I'm now using cVim[0] plugin on Chromium. When I've switched from Firefox a year ago there was no real alternative to keysnail[1]. Backwards compatibility between Firefox releases began to break beginning of 2017. mooz, the developer of keysnail, managed to do some heroics and bring back the usability of the plugin on the never versions. Finally, Firefox 57 put the nail in the coffin and keysnail was declared dead on the spot. I've tried some alternatives for a few weeks but none could deliver. I found cVim on Chromium, and that saved the day.

See what fellytone84 had to say about keysnail, here on HN, 4 years ago [2]: I consider Mooz's Keysnail Firefox add-on to be the most impressive keyboard oriented browsing tool. It's endlessly configurable, dotfiles in javascript--really nice to work with. For Chrome, the Vimium extension is very good, but recently I've been having a lot of fun with a similar, more configurable alternative called chromium-vim.

[0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cvim/ihlenndgcmojh...

[1] https://github.com/mooz/keysnail

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8452635

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by navinsylvester »

WilliamEdward wrote: post #431
madmax108 wrote: post #424

Every new release of Firefox makes the experience better and better. I'm glad Mozilla has started focusing on the browser again, not just as an "open alternative to chrome" but as the "best possible browser", which I truly believe Firefox today is :) Every new release reminds me of this comic: http://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/ As a tweet I read today[1] : "Mozilla seems to be under the assumption that ther…

I want to believe firefox is the best but Chrome's user interface is simply too smooth and clean and firefox has not been able to match that. There are some details that you will only notice if you have used FF and chrome in equal amounts for a long time, such as being able to easily merge two windows in Chrome (in one click vs two), or clumsy bookmarks and search history settings in FF, etc. Also there's a significa…

I have used both extensively but i prefer Firefox for the following reasons: lower resource footprint, privacy reasons, better session recovery - to name serious few and these i believe are much more important reasons that to say the drop-down menu takes a bit of more ms.

I have stopped using chrome and now am using Opera as the secondary browser with tightened setting.

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