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If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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post #362

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I used to like BBT, but lately it has devolved into the characters just being mean to each other all the time. You are spot on with your comment, too.

The quip that made me "Hmm" on BBT was "How often are you laughing with the characters? And how often are you laughing at them?"

You could laugh at the characters and the show still be good (if the characters deserve to be laughed at). The important thing is the quality of the joke.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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I find it hits a bit close to home, so much so as to ruin the comedy sometimes... it’d be funny if it weren’t so true, which is depressing. Still watch it, and love it though. And super impressed that a Hollywood production finally understood Northern California. That never happens (see: The Social Network, Hackers, every Steve Jobs movie, etc.)

I feel it is a bit contrived, the plot is "AAAAaaaaaah! here is this completely benign part of the software development cycle that we are dramatizing because the sky is falling and our company won't survive!!!!!" Every episode

So like what happens every week on many actual startups?

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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I find it hits a bit close to home, so much so as to ruin the comedy sometimes... it’d be funny if it weren’t so true, which is depressing. Still watch it, and love it though. And super impressed that a Hollywood production finally understood Northern California. That never happens (see: The Social Network, Hackers, every Steve Jobs movie, etc.)

Hackers is best enjoyed, IMHO, if you interpret it as a hyperbole of the media stereotype of the hacker culture of the era. I tend to revisit it every year and have grown to appreciate it more and more with time. Also, Sneakers and The Net.

I love Hackers. I also love snickering at all of the technical lapses throughout the movie. 28.8 kbaud? Yeah...you're streaming that 3d Gibson interface over that... Yeah, I know, they had to Hollywood it up, but still...

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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I find it hits a bit close to home, so much so as to ruin the comedy sometimes... it’d be funny if it weren’t so true, which is depressing. Still watch it, and love it though. And super impressed that a Hollywood production finally understood Northern California. That never happens (see: The Social Network, Hackers, every Steve Jobs movie, etc.)

I love Silicon Valley as much as I loathe Big Bang Theory. Talk about a show that plays to what "regular" people think nerds are like. I am absolutely dumbfounded how popular it is. Then again, Chuck Lorre has a track record for that type of garbage...

I normally pause and read the chuck lore production thing after the show. Its always stupid brainless drivel, very fitting.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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post #423

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oh man, they definitely should have used that. it fits right into the show in every way. i am laughing just reading a straight account of what happened. silicon valley is really insufferable. i don't understand that place at all and don't ever wish to be there. and i am often reminded of adam curtis' documentary all watched over by machines of everlasting grace . i wish he would do another one along these lines.

Like they said, people would have written it off as fake and over the top.

where did they say that? they said it was "too hacky".

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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I find it hits a bit close to home, so much so as to ruin the comedy sometimes... it’d be funny if it weren’t so true, which is depressing. Still watch it, and love it though. And super impressed that a Hollywood production finally understood Northern California. That never happens (see: The Social Network, Hackers, every Steve Jobs movie, etc.)

I kind of have this feeling for most of Mike Judge's stuff. I think we've all been in an Office Space situation. Being from the same part of Texas that King Of The Hill is based on, I totally know people that I could swear Judge based the characters off of for the show. At this point, Idiocracy should be moved from the comedy category and into the prophecy/documentary category.

I agree with most of your comment except Idiocracy - while sometimes funny it is a trite classist argument, already made in various form centuries ago ("the poor are inferior and reproduce quickly, ergo each generation will be lesser than the previous").

While in reality e.g. IQ score baselines keep getting adjusted to account for the fact that kids keep getting better and better scores as time goes on[0].

The world is not getting dumber and if it is there is no evidence for it and plenty against it.

[0] https://ourworldindata.org/intelligence

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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post #339

Dan Lyons, one of the writers of the show recently wrote a new book titled "Lab Rats: How Silicon Valley Made Work Miserable for the Rest of Us ..."

Also worth reading his book "Disrupted" - the book is every bit as funny and relevant as Silicon Valley

I loved Dan Lyons fake Steve Job columns, but Disrupted didn't work for me at all. He presented himself as the lone adult in a sea of misfit children, but came across as a clueless and bitter crank. The same (admittedly keen) observations about the corporate culture would have gone down so much better (for me) if he hadn't tried to crammed every page with so much smug superiority.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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post #403

You might also like "Nathan Barley (2005)" - a savage British TV parody of the mid-2000s startup scene in Shoreditch, London. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqfkuc5mawg&list=PLTM-Dbun10...

I'd second this recommendation - it's incredible.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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post #153

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No it wasn’t ye mad thing

I should have provided a source: https://youtu.be/sIQNXH8yHsk?t=31

Wow. They really did!

There's a lot of stuff filmed outside the studio though I'm certain they don't have a live audience for. The IT Crowd does use a laughter track a lot of the time.

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