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can slack plausibly cause ADA compliance problems re: visually impaired people? or would it end up as "use the browser client with a screen reader and be glad you can do that"
The ADA only applies to certain types of "public" private businesses. Like grocery stores and bakeries, hotels, etc. I have never heard of it applying to any private software (that isn't government related). You can always use some other chat software or none at all. However, I would imagine that as a company, if you require employees to use specific software as a condition of employment and no accommodation can be m…
Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
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Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
#432Great, I feel like an idiot. I advocated slack, because it granted the freedom to choose a client. Now I helped lock-in others. Suggestions for alternatives, that I could migrate to? The requirements are: mid sized teams, desktop and mobile, all major os. People used web based client, native clients, irc gw, and bots. We need search and archive. Self-hosting is an option.
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Pay $20 and you get the number permanently. I've set up my kids' soccer club and my son's Cub Scout Pack with voicemail-only numbers. Callers leave a message and a recording and a transcription is forwarded to the appropriate person via email. I've also read using Google Voice is highly recommended for things that require a voice or text number since it's very difficult to get hold of someone at Google that can be so…
Where can I get a permanent (US) number anywhere? The cheapest I've seen slightly below $2/month, but all the super cheap carriers are very volatile businesses and you can't expect to keep them more than a few years. Seeing as you don't really own phone numbers in the sense you own domain names, any permanence is limited by the life span of your service provider.
Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
#434Great, I feel like an idiot. I advocated slack, because it granted the freedom to choose a client. Now I helped lock-in others. Suggestions for alternatives, that I could migrate to? The requirements are: mid sized teams, desktop and mobile, all major os. People used web based client, native clients, irc gw, and bots. We need search and archive. Self-hosting is an option.
Anyway, yeah, a lot of us are now looking for practical solutions to this very unfortunate and serious problem.
Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
#435I'm very disappointed to see that Slack has decided to go the way of every other messaging service and move away from decentralized and standardized protocols towards those that are walled and proprietary. > We are focused on making Slack accessible to all people. Over the past year, we've made great progress in improving both the keyboard and screen reading experiences in Slack. We know many users have been relying…
It's only ~100 KB(!)
It will be out of alpha this month.
Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
#436I'm very disappointed to see that Slack has decided to go the way of every other messaging service and move away from decentralized and standardized protocols towards those that are walled and proprietary. > We are focused on making Slack accessible to all people. Over the past year, we've made great progress in improving both the keyboard and screen reading experiences in Slack. We know many users have been relying…
I'm working on a native client for Slack, Skype and others. It's only ~100 KB(!) It will be out of alpha this month. https://eul.im
Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
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Right, so eventually they'd block every major organization and then it's practically the same as abandoning XMPP federation. Commercial incentives just don't align with XMPP, that's the underlying problem.
How would that explain Email?
Loads of companies (including Facebook and Google) are trying to "fix" (read: kill) your email inbox.
Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways
#438I don't understand ... im using slack at work , and why should i use IRC or XMPP with slack ? and why it is so bad they cancel it ? realy.. its just tool .. why i need IRC on top of that?
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But how does it sanely pronounce things with abbreviations or even something like: NSDictionary *myCompoundedWord = @{@“key: [NSNumber numberWithInt: 7] }; And know that it’s missing the terminal “ in the string and has an extra space after the ]? Seems very difficult. Would be great if it could understand the language enough to verbalize it at a higher level.
Screenreaders usually break it down into chunks it can pronounce or spell it out character by character, with added cues to indicate punctuation and some other things. It's not as slow as it sounds though, most blind people have their screenreaders set to read at a speed that is totally incomprehensible if you're not used to it. It requires a very good memory to manage something like programming, but blind people get…
Another point is that I imagine it takes your complete focus to listen and comprehend single characters at such speeds, so you will be super-focused on the task when you're writing code.
We, as the programmers with sight, can read code without getting anything out of it, if we're not focused.