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Kids in ‘Netflix Only’ Homes Saved from 230 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by edgan »

jopsen wrote: post #313
limaoscarjuliet wrote: post #115

Father speaking here - kids are on youtube, being pushed way more commercials than ever before.

Isn't it you responsibility to push adblock in your kids? Firefox for Android can block ads... But yes, it's much harder with tablets and phones..

I recently setup piHole to do DNS based blocking of YouTube ads. At first I set it up for the whole network, but then my Amazon Shopping app misbehaved. So I set it up just for my Nvidia Shields that we watch YouTube on.

It had a couple glitches at first, but has been working very well.

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Post by creep »

labster wrote: post #148
jjeaff wrote: post #117

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One thing that is certain is that there are more commercials now. If you watch an episode of The Big Bang Theory sans commercials, you will notice that it is only 17 minutes long! And that includes the 60 second intro. So 13 minutes of commercials for 16 minutes of actual content. No chance I'll be going back to regular TV.

To be fair, the commercials are the best part of watching The Big Bang Theory . Much better to spend a few minutes imagining how cool I would be if I just owned Product X rather than see a nerd minstrel show with an annoying laugh track.

Not to mention the downright offensive portrayal of aspergers and autism in general. And also, "LOL look at Penny, she's so stupid in comparison to these genius nerds, hahaha, oh awww but she's so sweet and pretty, oh haha there goes Sheldorp with more of his antics, what a loveable hateful genius, wow I wonder when I'm gonna learn my next Physics Fact. Geez I wish I weren't so stupid, I'll never be as smart as these guys..."

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Post by latexr »

tonmoy wrote: post #426
cvsh wrote: post #343

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>or for something unrelated but mentioning 'Hey Siri, tell me about [product being sold]'. What? Seriously? Commercials try to hijack your devices? Isn't this fairly clear-cut unauthorized access of a computer system, and therefore criminal?

I think the GP means that the commercials show how you can ask Siri to search for their product.

I think GP means the ads are actually trying to activate the devices:

> If Google has now searched for some random thing being sold because of that ad, then those ads will be shown to me when I browse on my computer

This isn’t unheard of. Burger King pulled that stunt to great success: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/business/burger-king-tv-a...

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Post by b0rsuk »

DubiousPusher wrote: post #41
bastawhiz wrote: post #7

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Every year when I go home for Christmas I watch TV with my parents and I'm always astounded that they pay more money than me to get access to worse content, and it has ads. It's really astounding that folks put up with it.

I think TV remains popular with certain people largely out of ease of use. You can just turn it on and you don't have to make a decision about what to watch. It's always there. Also, changing would require learning something new. People genuinely find learning to have a level of discomfort so they avoid it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2013/03/learning-hurts-your-...

I use radio for that. It's good for when you're doing something else that's not too absorbing (programming is out of question for me). Since you have something else to do, you by definition don't have time to sift through potentially interesting stuff.

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Post by dang »

rdruxn wrote: post #314
Fifer82 wrote: post #311

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Really? I mean, Really???? You have an unregulated device in your home, mining away on data which... you paid for, hard cash. Not a game, not a movie, not a simulation, not an experience. And your only use is an Alarm Clock? This is gold mate, gold. You know when people say "ach, the guy is just an idiot with money"? mmanfrin is what I see.

Comments like this inspire me to reach HN’s 500 upvote floor just so I can downvote you.

I appreciate your concern for comment quality, but please don't respond to a bad comment by posting another. That amounts to feeding trolls and the site guidelines ask you not to do it: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Instead, the thing to do is flag egregious comments, as described here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. You don't need nearly as much karma to do that, and we review most flagged comments.

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Post by specialist »

backpropaganda wrote: post #358
joejerryronnie wrote: post #355

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Definitely reconsider watching Southpark. The last few seasons are the sharpest social and political satire on television.

South Park Seasons 18 and 19 are almost like a different series as compared to the previous seasons.

Thanks for the replies. I'll reconsider.

I still haven't forgiven Parker & Stone for telling people that voting didn't matter. If they've grown up, with some kind of mea culpa, I'll be happy to welcome them back to civil society.

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Post by BrendanEich »

cyborgx7 wrote: post #389
evv wrote: post #156

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Brendon Eich is working on "Brave Browser", which aims to use Ethereum to enable an ideal relationship between consumers, content producers, and advertisers.

A relationship that still includes advertisers is never ideal.

No ads unless each user opts in, then only:

0. Consent required for any ads at all, from user and (see 2) publisher if involved.

1. User private ads, anonymously confirmed (ANONIZE2 ZKP protocol, will move on-chain when Ethereum supports it). Ad placement is signal- and cookie-free, by a machine learning agent running only on device and looking at only your on-device data (private sync uses secret key, no data in clear on any servers), matching against common per region/language ad catalog listing edge urls + keywords per ad.

2. Revenue share of 70% to inventory (ad slot) owner, i.e., to the user in (1). If publishers partner on indirect ad slots p, pub gets 70%, user gets 15%. In all cases users gets at least as much as Brave gets.

So users of Brave block ads and trackers by default. If you want to contribute anonymously you can fund your user BAT wallet (we are doing initial grants). Pinned a la Patreon contributions as well as private pro data by view count and time send tokens in one transaction on chain per 30 days of uptime.

But when BAT ads are up and sharing revenue to users, the you can opt into those to fill your wallet. If you want to can out, you will be able to, but only via KYC (banking “Know Your Customer) level vetting. By default your revenue will flow back to your pinned and supported sites and creators.

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Post by isostatic »

Skye wrote: post #403
isostatic wrote: post #402

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My kids know about three channels "Bbc" (watching "do they know" at the moment) "Amazon" "Netflix" We went to the cinema to watch Paddington last month. They had barely any idea what the adverts before the film were.

Do they still do adverts on DVDs of films? It was a pain because you couldn't skip them. Guess that's why stuff like Netflix is so popular...

Not on the props pig one they watched in the car today - some unskippable logos and copyright warnings that annoy me and remind me why I rip dvds to the home NAS, but no adverts.

Yet rarely watch dvds. I've noticed Amazon has adverts on their fire tv stick on some shows though, but we use the built in lg tv app which doesn't.

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Post by isostatic »

alistproducer2 wrote: post #369

My kids are netflix babies and when I gave them a toys r us catalog to look through to pick Christmas gifts out of they looked at it for 2 minutes, threw it aside and didn't ask for anything. Without commercials, they have no sense that they should even want the crap in a toy catalog. Big difference from when I was growing up.

My kids are the same. They still want the various go jetters and paw patrol toys because that's the actual program.

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Post by isostatic »

lr4444lr wrote: post #413
hristov wrote: post #4

Sounds great but the sad reality is that Netflix shows have commercials inside of them. I was really excited about this netflix show "love" until the macdonalds product placement inside of it just made me sick and i stopped watching it. I haven't been watching much original netflix shows since then, but whenever i feel like peeking into a new show i notice product placements pretty soon.

I never understood why product placement upsets people so much. Unless the premise is pure fantasy or a completely alternate reality, real brands help more quickly get me past the sense artificiality that is drama/theater that suspends disbelief. I can get engrossed more quickly. When I see products that are similar and obvious knock-offs of a brand that avoids the name or trademark design, I'm immediately somewhat d…

I don't mind it as "character in contemporary show eats Frosties cereal rather than shredies"

When Captain Kirk answers his Nokia phone while drinking his Budweiser, that's when I hate it.

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