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Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by tigershark »

downandout wrote: post #157
kilroy123 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is, they are wanting more money. It's not really ready and won't ship next year. I agree something is fishy.

This is what I was thinking. That conversation probably went something like this: “We need more money.” “We gave you $2 billion. You’re going to have to ship something before we give you more.” “Hmmm...we aren’t ready to ship and may not be for some time...what if instead of shipping, we can show you that 50K people are interested in buying it? Will you give us some more money then?” “Sure, you show us that 50k peopl…

And the Rolling Stones journalist is lying of course... Guys, you are really shocking in trying to throw mud over magic leap in any way possible.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

evo_9 wrote: post #79

So is it still 1500 bucks? And I guess they don't remember Trip Hawkins overpriced bid at entertainment dominance, the 3DO? Cause this thing has a the whiff of 3DO all over it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_3DO_Company

I loved my 3DO, even though I was the only one with it I ever saw.

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Post by georgewsinger »

phyller wrote: post #226

I don't understand why this entire field seems so focused on gaming, and not productivity. The single most interesting thing to me was the "displays on demand". There are two things that would absolutely revolutionize how I work that I would pay big money for: 1) Any sort of glasses that would allow me to view virtual displays in high definition. I don't care if I have to turn my head to see more than one display, I…

Check out [SimulaVR](https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula) which is trying to do EXACTLY THIS on the Linux platform. We're in need of developers and test users if anyone is interested in joining the fight.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by [deleted] »

tigershark wrote: post #426
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a controlled environment with purpose-built demos for folks under NDA Magic Leap pulled a similar stunt with The Information around the same time last year [1]. Seems like they found a more pliant journalist in The Rolling Stone . "In March of last year, it released a video online titled “Just Another Day in the Office at Magic Leap.” Shot from the perspective of one of its employees working at his desk, all a…

So are you explicitly saying that the Rolling Stones journalist is lying? And the only supposed "proof" you bring is an article over an year old written when the miniaturised prototype didn't even exist?

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Post by archagon »

buro9 wrote: post #60

I'm pretty optimistic about Magic Leap, and lightfield technology in general. Where I see it really shining is as a successor to staged plays, and cinema. The thought of allowing viewers to really deeply immerse, comfortably for long periods of time, to control the point of focus, to move around. Kurosawa would shoot movies by building whole sets with all walls intact that worked from every angle, and having the acto…

That would be amazing. I once attended a real-life version of this called "Sleep No More"[1] — a looping, living play taking place in a darkened warehouse where you could freely move around, examine every room (down to the drawer), and even interact with the actors to a limited degree. The audience was made to wear masks, and the physicality combined with the anonymity and general darkness gave you the ghostly sense of losing yourself. It was a sublime and markedly different experience from any other medium I'd ever encountered.

(I wouldn't go again because the eroticism and occult themes make me quite uncomfortable, but the idea and execution were incredible from an artistic point of view.)

In a few decades, this could literally be the next "movies".

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_No_More_(2011_play)

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by pharrington »

mlevental wrote: post #373
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a controlled environment with purpose-built demos for folks under NDA Magic Leap pulled a similar stunt with The Information around the same time last year [1]. Seems like they found a more pliant journalist in The Rolling Stone . "In March of last year, it released a video online titled “Just Another Day in the Office at Magic Leap.” Shot from the perspective of one of its employees working at his desk, all a…

I pick you: you people are insane. they have raised based off of demos. vcs come in, get the demo, sign a check (because it's that fucking good). I know at least 4 people personally that have gotten demos and it's very real.

What is known, empirically true - it is possible for one group of people to scam other people and groups for many millions of dollars each. Given what is known about the mechanisms of high end confidence tricks, what is different about the operation of Magic Leap that indicates that it is not a confidence trick? Remember, the most detailed article written by a journalist who experienced the demo describes a literal scam.

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Post by unobtaniumstool »

simonhughes22 wrote: post #417
albinofrenchy wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about the other devices, but the hololens is incredibly underwhelming when used. The marketing CGI for it is the best thing about it. I suspect that is probably true also of the magic leap one.

Have you actually tried it? I know some of the developers and creatives that have worked with it, and they say it's more impressive when used in person than it looks in the 2d promo videos, which is the opposite of most devices.

It's absolute magic in person. The limited FOV is kind of a bummer, but tracking is rock solid.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by erikpukinskis »

al2o3cr wrote: post #224
joshstrange wrote: post #140

The first headset to give me virtual monitors that I can use day-to-day in lieu of my physical monitors will have my money in a heartbeat. I'd love to be able to carry a headset to/from work and have essentially the same multi-display experience at home/coffee shop/work/etc. I don't care if it's VR/AR.

This comes up a lot in VR/AR discussions, but IMO it's the least likely application in the near to medium term. There's just not enough pixels in the headset to accurately simulate multiple high-resolution monitors. For instance, the Hololens is rumored to have 1280x720 resolution per-eye - so a screen that consumes the entire visual field is only 720p, and "simulated displays" that were farther away would be worse.

People keep saying this over and over but I don’t understand. Why does a HMD need the same resolution as a monitor in order to do the same job? Wouldn’t the HMD be equivalent to having like sixteen 1600x1200 displays all around you, and isn’t that at least as good as a single 4K monitor?

You could have one virtual display with close to your face for high resolution information, and then dozens of peripheral displays further back for ambient information. Displays can move forward and back with subtle head movements. Why is the hardware resolution the limit? Isn’t it more of a UI problem?

It’s like people are assuming the VR desktop is limited to being an exact replica of their physical monitor, but why would you do that?

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