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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by MadWombat »

So... my Firefox just auto-upgraded to 57

* No multi-row tab bar and no way to get it (from Tab Mix Plus)

* Tabs are ugly square and no way to get them rounded

* Tabs are too small and no way to set minimal tab size

* Tabs are all the same color and no way to get them colored again

* No tab groups, the replacement is containers, but there is no way to move an existing tab into a container and no way to only see tabs for a particular container.

* Tab Session Manager seems to provide named sessions, although I have not tested it properly yet

I wouldn't say that the new FF is completely useless, but it has affected my browsing experience in a strongly negative way. I will give it a few days, but at this point Chrome might provide more features I actually want (never thought I would say that).

Edit: Reading other comments in this thread, I found a link to a set of CSS files that bring rounded tabs back (https://github.com/wilfredwee/photon-australis). Unfortunately it disables color coding container tabs which makes separating containers a pain. Well, guess you cannot have everything.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by revelation »

dralley wrote: post #315
tedunangst wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many users have AMD laptops?

AMD graphics. And since we were talking about Macs, the answer is "a lot"

And what is the intersection of "Macs", "AMD graphics" and "battery powered"?

Pretty sure it is the empty set.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by callahad »

oliv__ wrote: post #419
Mizza wrote: post #65

I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

Was thinking of upgrading...until now. Can anyone post a screenshot?

Plenty of screenshots at https://mozilla.org/firefox/, but I'd suggest giving it a shot yourself. Lots of work went into cleaning up the UI, adding appropriate, subtle animations, etc. On macOS, the titlebar and sidebars use platform's "vibrancy" effects, etc.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Yoric »

mook wrote: post #380
Yoric wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(thanks :) ) > As long as you're here: I was told that the old extension API was way too broad, locking in a lot of design choices that were not really considered from the "do we want to maintain this for years and years" perspective. And that the new one is much more focused and considered. Is that the case? Definitely. The old extension mechanism was basically "here is the toolkit we are using to build Firefox, com…

I believe IE also had extensions (the channel bar in Windows 98, and later toolbars and ActiveX that partly lead to Firefox becoming so popular). It certainly didn't have as much flexibility as XUL though!

That's possible. ActiveX was powerful but... problematic :)

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by choward »

The one feature I wanted that chrome has isn't there in Gnome: no worthless title bar that shows redundant information. I saw screenshots for Gnome with the title bar missing before Quantum was released, so I had my hopes up.

There is an extension to get rid of it. However, you also have to manually install some other garbage too. They provide a debian package, but I'm not using a debian based OS so it's a pain in the ass. I'll stick with Chromium, thanks.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by callahad »

seanalltogether wrote: post #313
gschier wrote: post #286

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You can change it to "light" in the prefs :)

Yeah I just tried that and it changes the private window to light as well. I guess it doesn't matter much cause i don't use private much, but it's weird they have removed that distinction now.

If you want that kind of distinction, it should be pretty trivial (less than a dozen lines of code) to implement a dynamic theme to that effect. We've got an article in the https://hacks.mozilla.org queue about exactly that -- stay tuned :)

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Indolat »

chippy wrote: post #84
barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

This new release is all about attracting new users to FF from Chrome. It will hurt those of us who actively have been using and living with Firefox. In time, they say, they will bring back the various APIs for the extensions (although it's still "might" and there's no timeline yet) - so in the meantime, if you liked FF for it's customisation, we just have to suck it up. It's similar to when Ubuntu moved to Unity and…

> This new release is all about attracting new users to FF from Chrome.

And I'm actually thinking of switching from Firefox to Chrome now.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Yoric »

HelloNurse wrote: post #345
developer2 wrote: post #284

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Mozilla absolutely made the right decision to dump a decade's worth of legacy code to improve performance, and make the future happen now. Let's be real: had they supported legacy extensions, extension developers would ignore porting until Mozilla finally said "that's been long enough, we're removing legacy support". The result is simply that the rough transition happens now instead of a couple of years down the line…

You forget the big technical issue: many web extension API features that are needed to port old Firefox extensions do not exist yet (e.g. filesystem access) or are conservatively crippled (e.g. adding buttons, menu items, other GUI elements). Your 2-3 months of frantic effort will start not immediately but in a vague future when the Firefox team feels like improving the web extension API. It is fairly obvious from AP…

You're pretty much describing what Firefox has been doing for the past few years.

At some point, however, the rest of the world keeps moving and, no matter how painful for everyone involved, it becomes unfeasible to wait for all add-ons to be ported (or even portable).

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by nisse72 »

DiThi wrote: post #160
louiz wrote: post #141

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- Open a new window: the tabs are not there by default - You need a css hack to hide the standard bar - There’s an ugly title thingy at the top of the tab pane

> Open a new window: the tabs are not there by default It's not ideal but not a showstopper for me. I mostly use one window, where the toolbar is restored by default, and when I open a new window I got used to clicking the toolbar button (which I moved to the left) or pressing F1. > You need a css hack to hide the standard bar > There’s an ugly title thingy at the top of the tab pane I just copied the "css hack" once…

Brilliant! Thank you!
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