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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by pseudalopex »

dredmorbius wrote: post #333
pseudalopex wrote: post #210

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Mozilla replaced Reading List (which was client-side encrypted and theoretically self-hostable) with Pocket (which is neither). Search engines need search terms to function; Pocket uses user data to support a particular business model.

Reading list was seriously underfeatured. Pocket is now Free Software, which might make those elements from RL you liked possible again.

Reading List was still in development when it was canceled. Anyone who preferred Pocket was free to install it.

Continuing the current revenue model and supporting Context Graph seem at odds with improving user privacy. Pocket isn't now Free Software, but hopefully it will be feasible to self-host whenever they do release the source.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by kasabali »

mxuribe wrote: post #422
nerdponx wrote: post #59

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Now all they need to do is make it self-hostable.

I'm with you! I know there's wallabag, but i always felt it was too hefty for self-hosting on, say, a small digital ocean vps. I've been using Shaarli [ https://github.com/shaarli/Shaarli ] because its so lean, and easy/quick to set up...though admittedly it is also lean on features (which i'm cool with, but others might want more). My hope is that pocket - once made to be self-hostable - is easy and lean to self-hos…

I ran wallabag with nginx, fastcgi and sqlite on servers shittier than cheapest DO instances and haven't had any problems. Sure it may be slightly heavier than scp'ing and running a single go binary but compared to the likes of rails or java apps this setup as light as it gets.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by 0xTJ »

anexprogrammer wrote: post #48

Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…

If Thunderbird is going to stop being developed, what should I use instead? I like having the add-ons, and use the Calendar with Office 365 Enterprise stuff, and Google Calendar.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by terminus »

forevercrashing wrote: post #420
sharkbot wrote: post #83

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The Kobo ereaders have had Pocket integration for a while now, and it works great offline. My usual routine is to find interesting articles on Hacker News, and if they are longer than a page or two, click the Pocket button and read them at home on the ereader. A few don't render well (the article on Arrival/Story of your Life not being a time-travel story was a recent fail), but generally it works great.

the article on Arrival/Story of your Life not being a time-travel story was a recent fail Loved the book / movie but haven't read that article. Do you have the link? Thanks.

Probably this one: https://www.gwern.net/Story%20Of%20Your%20Life

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by wott »

flukus wrote: post #323
toyg wrote: post #321

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> Slack has a standalone app? [...] I never even realized Discord [...] I never even realized that WhatsApp [...] But that's exactly how Electron and friends got popular: they allow for web-first development. Desktop support is a bonus for people who need it. When Mozilla started working on XUL, the future of the web looked a lot like XML and fat clients. Applications would be built by desktop developers targeting th…

> As it turns out, the opposite workflow won Maybe for you, definitely not for me. Most of the applications I use daily are desktop ones and I'll refuse to install an electron one unless I have to.

His point was about the fad amongst developers (well, "developers"...), not users.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by flukus »

tukelully wrote: post #368
flukus wrote: post #260

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Spoken like a manager. Something is either being actively developed or it's dieing, there is no in between with software, there is no finished state.

That certainly sounds nice but it's not true. Or at the very least depends on how you define software. If software is built upon an evolving platform (such as the web) and has a self-supplying revenue stream if it needs one at all, then it can be done and will last.

Even for embedded software though, if something hasn't been looked at for years then the original developers probably don't remember it and may not still be around. If a client want's a feature or tweak then the institutional knowledge is gone and the best bet would be starting from scratch.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by wapz »

baddox wrote: post #332
jrwiegand wrote: post #314

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If the NFL can call themselves a nonprofit then anyone else should be able to do the same.

The NFL is a nonprofit by any reasonable definition, even without the explicit exception in 501(c)(6). Or rather, it was, until it voluntarily gave up its tax-exempt status in 2015 supposedly over public opinion about their status. I think people simply aren't aware that all the major revenue associated with the NFL goes through specific teams, which are normal taxable corporations. Humorously, people also aren't awa…

I surely wasn't aware that they gave up their tax exempt status. Huge props to them.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by rodorgas »

jeena wrote: post #307
bad_user wrote: post #213

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Thunderbird is still under active development, I'm one of their users, being the best email client for the desktop. Unfortunately Thunderbird is also a dead end, being incompatible with Firefox's direction. Yes, XUL is dead and Firefox is evolving into a Chrome substitute and while people have serious concerns about it, fact of the matter is that Chrome was designed for web apps and almost 9 years after its release C…

But gmail and fastmail don't work offline.

You can have GMail offline by installing the Chrome App.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by dredmorbius »

ikurei wrote: post #400
dredmorbius wrote: post #349

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If you're on Android, I've found a set of tricks which work for this pretty well. Ingredients: 1. Termux App. 2. Termux API App. 3. Termux CLI utilities. apt install termux-api 4. Python: apt install python 5. youtube-dl: pip install youtube-dl 6. VLC App. Install from app store. 7. A set of shell functions for clipboard and application access: alias xc='termux-clipboard-set' alias xp='termux-clipboard-get' open () {…

I've played a bit with terminals on Android, but I only had real success using ssh. This seems very convenient, I'll play around with termux, thanks! BTW, I'm unable to access /storage/emulated/0, it seems Termux doesnt have permission (and the app doesnt list it in its permissions). Is your phone rooted?

I've attempted rooting the phone, but don't believe I've succeeded. One of my major gripes about the whole Android ecosystem (and a massively significant one). Samsung Tab A.

I've just confirmed though that I can create and delete files on /storage/emulated/0/ YMMV, is all I can say.

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