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Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Using H-1B Visas to Pay Low Wages to Immigrants
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Re: Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Using H-1B Visas to Pay Low Wages to Immigrants
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The Masters in US is gamed too. Many of those students are the ones who could not clear the campus interviews of Infosys, Cognizant or Accenture when they were in the college for Bachelors. So they come to "study" MS in the US so that they can get into the H1B system easily. As far as I know, the MS hires do not posses any special skills. Most of them fake their experiences to get into the companies. There are specif…
"The Masters in US is gamed too. Many of those students are the ones who could not clear the campus interviews of Infosys, Cognizant or Accenture when they were in the college for Bachelors. So they come to "study" MS in the US so that they can get into the H1B system easily." I don't mind a bit of cynicism but this is absurd. Why the hell is "study" in scare quotes? It's a pretty standard thing for fresh graduates t…
How about IITians from India, getting high quality education for free using Indian tax payers money and moving to US.
Someone coming off the free education that the Indian government provided using Indian tax payers money should keep quiet and should be ashamed of himself to be called a silicon valley employer.
You are welcome - An Indian tax payer.
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That has to be a self-delusion of the highest magnitude ever recorded. "Sure he's let the fox run the henhouse; but who knows better than a fox?"
Assuming that anyone who works for GS, or banking in general, are homogenous in morals and ethics and ability is equally delusional.
These guys are not 'anyone'. That's just deliberately ignoring the point.
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Why don't we just allow more of them to become Americans?
This. We can happily allow millions of illegal immigrants in to work as seasonal farm labor, or import unskilled refugees from war-torn, ideologically questionable areas, that become a drain on social services, but we throw up barriers for well-educated people who will immediately start contributing, if we'd let them. It's nuts.
That your first adjective to describe war zone refugees is unskilled says more about you than anything else.
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These corporations are huge, with many many employees (over 30 thousand just at Goldman Sachs). Just because you used to work for Goldman in the past, does not mean you are a current and future supporter of Goldman. Nor does it mean that you are a bad person. Trump is hiring people that know how these companies work from the inside-out. Which is the exact type of person you need to be able to deal with these companie…
That has to be a self-delusion of the highest magnitude ever recorded. "Sure he's let the fox run the henhouse; but who knows better than a fox?"
Tom Wheeler had been a telecom CEO and lobbyist prior to running the FCC. He turned out OK, solidly reining in the industry he had worked for. He knew what to watch out for, and didn't need to rely on lobbyists to explain things to him.
So it works. Integrity and patriotism matter of course. Diversifying investments prior to taking office would help reduce temptation.
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#436Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of all of the political candidates, only Trump and Sanders spoke out against H1-B visa abuse used to depress wages. (Former) Presidential Candidate Senator Marco Rubio of Florida wanted to triple the number of H1-B visas to 250,000 from 85,000 and accepted $2 million donation from Disney. Disney of Florida had recently replaced 250 US IT workers with foreigners on H1-B. Trump especially spoke out against this move. C…
> Clinton accepted $675,000 from Goldman for 3 talks. So what? That is what people with her credentials are worth on the speaking circuit. God forbid someone get paid what they are worth, what do you think this is, a meritocracy? > she could have donated the $675,000 for charity as President Obama did with his Nobel Peace Prize Award money The Clinton's donated over $15MM to charity over the course of 2008-2015 and p…
>> Clinton accepted $675,000 from Goldman for 3 talks.
> So what? That is what people with her credentials are worth on the speaking circuit. God forbid someone get paid what they are worth, what do you think this is, a meritocracy?
$675,000 for 3 talks to Goldman leaves many with the implication that Clinton was "bought" by Goldman, whether true or not (and how to prove that?). It gave both Sanders (who asked that Clinton dispose the contents of the 3 talks which she never did but which Wikileaks eventually did do) and Trump significant ammunition against Clinton in the campaign.
If you are running for President, esp as a Democrat, it is unwise to accept money like that from Goldman or Wall Street. She could have said when she accepted each payment from Goldman that she was donating that money to charity so as not to leave people, potential voters, with the impression that she was "bought." Perceptions matter and as someone who came from a family that ran multiple times for President (3 times prior to this election) she should have known better.
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Not a Trump fan at all here, but technically I think it's more the other way around. Trump is buying up Goldman, rather than they buying him. I have yet to see a clear line of influence from Goldman to Trump personally. It seems more like he's hiring old buddies for potential future favors from them. Reverse lobbying! You heard it here first!
Corruption is by association, not direction. So Trump's involvement with Goldman at all is indication of a quid-pro-quo that stinks of corruption. Trump may be right about H1Bs, but he's knee deep in corruptive patterns. The details will come out when those "old buddies" start doing their "former" businesses huge favors.
> but he's knee deep in corruptive patterns.
Well, you might be right, but it helps to cite evidence to your assertions.
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If your study is claiming that software engineer compensation rose no more rapidly than the population at as a whole (they also saw a 5% increase), then something is deeply wrong with your study. Note that "Computer and math occupations" is a broad catch-all term which includes all sorts of professions, such as: Computer User Support Specialist: Provide technical assistance to computer users. Answer questions or reso…
Here in flyover country, companies are paying new-grad software engineers 30-38k.
Do you have an actual tech sector where you're at though. I also live in a flyover state and the average salary for a software engineer is $91,894, and that's well below the national average.
For S&G, I looked up salaries for software engineers in some random cities in the middle of nowhere and I have yet to find a place with an average salary close to that. Edmond, OK: 73,005; Eden Prairie, MN: 77,325 (23% below the national average); and the worst so far: Tuscaloosa, AL: $62,020.
Perhaps a few companies can get away paying so little, but it's hard to say that's the norm when they are so far below average, even for towns in the middle of nowhere.
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Clinton proposed automatically giving H1Bs a green card, which would have removed them from indentured servitude. Your narrative ignores the actual policy.
> Clinton proposed automatically giving H1Bs a green card, When? Her proposal, as reported in the media was, "'staple' green cards on STEM grads' diplomas". Was there other proposal she made specifically addressing H-1Bs?
> Her proposal, as reported in the media was, "'staple' green cards on STEM grads' diplomas".
Well, that's a terrible idea if she said that. She apparently wanted to depress STEM wages in the US and put Americans STEM workers, who worked very hard for their degrees and skill out of work. The green card, H1-B should only be given for STEM jobs for which there is no American.
So Clinton wanted to depress STEM wages and take STEM jobs away from Americans and Trump wanted STEM workers to be treated fairly.
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Raising wages combats the symptoms (wage depression) but not the cause (lack of mobility). The only way to truly solve the issue is to tie the H1B to the person and let them work freely in the US after a short time.
How would that solve the symptoms? And why is that the cause? I think the actual issue is that there aren't enough top-talent individuals in the country already; meaning the real cause is actually our broken education system. Opening the flood gates might solve the issues of select individuals and some companies, but it doesn't solve wage depression.
Most people in the industry believe that the best way to increase your income is to change jobs. How often would you change jobs if failing to secure a position resulted in your near-immediate ejection from the country? Probably not often, and that's the situation that many H1B workers are in.
The general belief is that H1B workers are underpaid because they have less flexibility in the labor market. While they can move jobs, it's somewhat tedious and requires both companies to work together to make the transition. It's not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.
If there were less friction involved with moving jobs, people on H1B could shop around for a better positions without worrying about their residency should things go wrong.