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Post by idlewords »

dmode wrote: post #404

I hope the tech world shuns Thiel. This is what he is supporting http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-... Specifically, look for his insults aimed at reporters and journalists. This man is unhinged and unqualified. He is currently riling up his followers by claiming that the election will be rigged. I am concerned the consequences of that message https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/1…

Thiel is a Facebook board member and a YC partner, and we haven't heard a peep out of either organization.

It's a shocking display of gutlessness. As Trump would say, disgusting!

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Post by josho »

briandear wrote: post #393
whack wrote: post #382

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Some of Trump's strongest policy prescriptions include 1) Clamping down on immigration 2) Clamping down on free trade I don't see how any libertarian can be a fan of either.

It isn't immigration, it's illegal immigration. It's also against the abuse of H1 visas. Incidentally Tata was a major donor to the Clinton Foundation and logically she supports H1 abuses: Here's a document from the 2008 Obama campaign about Clinton and her coziness with Indian H1 abusers: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/memo1.pdf Note that is a document from the Obama campaign -- not some republic…

Good points. But what specific policy or changes occur under a Trump presidency?

This past spring a 500% tariff was placed on Chinese steel. So, I have a hard time understanding what he's going to do different. That is my complaint with this election cycle that it's been all lip gloss and no substance so everyone concludes what they want about him.

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Post by anexprogrammer »

sgc wrote: post #407
Udik wrote: post #362

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stuff straight out of a comic book authoritarian regime: "stop and show me your papers." In France, afaik, it is mandatory to carry an id card and, missing that, the police can stop you for up to 4 hours to verify your identity (according to Wikipedia). If you're a foreigner you have to prove that you are legally resident. The last time I checked, France is not an authoritarian regime out of a comic book.

Not only France, AFAIK it is basically the standard practice in European countries. It is perfectly normal outside the US to be stopped with no probably cause simply to verify who you are, and if deemed worthwhile, what you are doing. I have been stopped in dozens of countries for procedural controls. I have never felt oppressed, but obviously it could be abused.

UK is only exception I can think of. Maybe Ireland and Denmark, but not certain.

Under Blair there was a plan to introduce, but it was widely opposed. Struck me as a little ironic with how easily UK has accepted surveillance and CCTV. Police need probable cause too, and generally behave well.

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Post by ting_bu_dung »

ThomPete wrote: post #428
dmode wrote: post #404

I hope the tech world shuns Thiel. This is what he is supporting http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-... Specifically, look for his insults aimed at reporters and journalists. This man is unhinged and unqualified. He is currently riling up his followers by claiming that the election will be rigged. I am concerned the consequences of that message https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/1…

The real tragedy is how easily peoples attention are all about form not substance. For all the crazy things Trump is saying he actually have some points that are far more important to discuss than whatever he said about women or journalists. With Hillary you get a seasoned politician who is going to do what they have always been doing. Absolutely nothing. That's besides of course making a huge mess internationally. A…

the real tragedies is you are not aware you're just a little bit misogynistic yourself.

"With Hillary you have a woman how is point her fingers at Trump". what does her being a woman have anything to do with your argument?

let's face it, you're willing to overlook the fact that trump is a psychopathic, women hating, racist, russia-affiliated, tax-dodging scum because hillary. all the points you've raised about hillary isn't as scary as having an amoral dictator like trump in the office.

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Post by atomi »

briandear wrote: post #399
mrcarrot wrote: post #357

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He may not explicitly endorse them, but his dog-whistling is certainly resonating with a particular crowd[1]. [1]: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-hat...

Could it not be argued that Clinton engages in non-white identity politics? Her 'deplorables' comment was almost entirely referring to white people. Plenty of deplorables that are Democrat and non-white but her comment was playing the identity card just as deftly as Trump's people have.

Trump's mass deportations are a form of ethnic cleansing.

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Post by Moshe_Silnorin »

camillomiller wrote: post #101
akhilcacharya wrote: post #20

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Wasn't aware of that. Sam's political views appear to be directly opposite of Peter's then if his Twitter is any indication.

That's why it's surprising. They're "I'm gonna spend the rest of my life with you if a world catastrophe happens" kind of buddies, according to this NewYorker Profile: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-man...

Their ability to remain friends despite political differences speaks very well of both.

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Post by thecrow1213 »

tvural wrote: post #264

Thiel might have ulterior motives, but his support of Trump is not too surprising if you've listened to his other ideas. He feels that the political agenda has been overrun by distractions, like "who can use which bathroom", at the expense of real problems, like the stagnation of median wages over the last forty years. He prefers the days when the national conversation was about how to beat the Soviets, and sees the…

I think it's funny that he's supporting the party that is making an issue out of the "who can use which bathroom" deal. Transgender people just want to use the bathroom they align with, it's the GOP that's making up stories about how children are at risk or some shit.

Theil is an idiot.

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Post by acdha »

gallonofmilk wrote: post #220
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Bernie is a good counter-example. Huge rallies, way behind in votes.

have you not read wikileaks? the DNC/Hillary rigged it against him from day one, he never stood a chance

Clearly you haven't read those emails: they show nothing of the sort, which is why you couldn't provide any evidence to back that claim.

You can find signs that people in the establishment personally favored the establishment candidate – the least surprising revelation in political history – but there's no evidence that lead to any concrete action. That's why the only claims of rigging have been intentional misrepresentation based on the knowledge that some people like you would repeat those claims without checking the sources.

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Post by ting_bu_dung »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #410
golemotron wrote: post #392

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Just like the US this year. This is not an exaggeration. Many people would have professional and personal consequences for supporting Trump in public. People like Peter Thiel and Scott Adams have enough money to not care. Scott isn't even endorsing him and he says that his speaking engagements have dried up. We may see a big difference between the polling and the election results this year. The Shy Tory Effect came t…

When I've posted criticism of Hillary on Facebook, I've gotten savaged in the comments by my liberal friends. It's a sobering and depressing experience and I'm sad to realize that my respect for most of them has declined, as no doubt theirs has for me. Periodically I will post a defense of freedom of speech, and I'll remind people that I'm willing to fight and die for their right to disagree with me, with which they…

well, when you align yourself with a women-hating, racist candidate, what do you expect your friends to think?

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Post by yodsanklai »

nostrademons wrote: post #42
vinhboy wrote: post #17

Politics aside. What does it say about his judgement to continue investing in something that is statistically on track to fail. Not only that, but its also a toxic brand to attach yourself to. Or do we just put this in the "expensive new hobby" section and leave it at that. ---- Update: I want to hijack my own comment to ponder something. As someone with no money and no influence, I find it hard to think about how to…

Pretty much all of Thiel's investing thesis is to invest in things that are statistically on track to fail, but whose payoff if they succeed is greater than most people imagine. PayPal, Facebook - both of these were terrible ideas when they came out (along with a number of other ones that did, in fact, fail). His idea is that people consistently mis-price risk, and so investing in a portfolio where everyone else thin…

You're assuming Thiel is acting rationally. But more likely, he's blinded by political ideology.
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