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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by matt_wulfeck »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #316
balabaster wrote: post #185

It's water resistant but water damage isn't covered under warranty? How can you have it both ways like that? "Water resistance IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Liquid damage not covered under warranty." How does one make such a big deal of it being water resistant (Product film: 1m 35s; "...to make this the first water resistant iPhone") but not cover liquid damage under warranty?

Probably because it's water resistant not water proof. You can't put it 50m under water for a few days and then complain it's damaged. I guess if they are saying it's water resistant they have tested pretty extensively and can guarantee that under the conditions they say it will not get damaged. Not great that the customer has to place their trust in the company regarding that though.

That's precisely why it's spec ip67. It allows them to have their phone independently verified while still leaving the customer on the hook for damage.

Yes, it's unfortunate that if its damages under 50m it's your word versus their word.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by joakleaf »

jimjimjim wrote: post #371

so, what's the next market/eco-system? mobiles are mature products and the players are strictly in cash-cow or market share mode. nothing of importance is changing. I've got an iphone se and an iphone 4 and you can't tell me that's the most they can do for 6 years of product development by one of the richest companies in the world. (yes i know that it's faster with more a and more b and more c etc) Apple needs to dri…

Super slick AR glasses... If they ever arrive.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by prawn »

zyxley wrote: post #39
artmageddon wrote: post #3

$160 for the AirPods? My goodness those are expensive.

The only other company putting up a serious effort in the same niche is aiming at $150 (and releasing a month later than the AirPods) [1], so there's probably some lower bound here set by the complications of the hardware/R&D to seamlessly connect two separate earbuds through your head and to the phone. [1]: http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/5/12798640/bragi-wireless-hea...

There's also these for around $200 from Samsung, though supposedly battery life is poor.

http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/gear-iconx/

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by SCdF »

DCKing wrote: post #396
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

To be fair to Apple, I think they have a good point. Digital connectors are superior in almost every way (space use, port flexibility, sound quality, even cable integrity). I admire them for ripping off the bandaid, like they did previously with disk drives and parrallel ports. Someone needs to lead the way to abandon legacy, and Apple can do that far more effectively than others (e.g. Motorola has also abandoned hea…

> (space use, port flexibility,

Except they only gave you one port, so you can't even do something as benign as charge your phone and listen to fucking music at the same time.

> sound quality,

I challenge you to prove that one, I'm sure sound quality is indistinguishable. If it's good enough for every sound engineer ever it's good enough for me.

> even cable integrity)

Again, is that even true? You can knock out a cheap headphone cable that works perfectly, whereas lightning devices are always crazy expensive.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

The telling thing for me was Phil had to defend the headphone idea with three different arguments, along with an inflammatory photo of a switchboard. When Steve Jobs deleted the floppy drive, he simply declared that floppies had no future.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by [deleted] »

eeeeeeeeeeeee wrote: post #238
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

The lag is what I'm curious about. Given the lag I experience while streaming Bluetooth from my iPhone to my car, I'm expecting to see about the same amount of lag. Which is annoying because it's definitely a worse experience than a cable.

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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by qaq »

I think Apple needs to add a few younger people to their executive team, because it seams they no longer can even pretend to be exited during the presentation.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by danra »

rimantas wrote: post #404
danra wrote: post #385

So disappointing they just decided to ignore "touch disease". Bad form.

Yes, because every company introduces new flagman by talking about some diseases. That's a good form.

I should have been clearer. I really expected them to announce a free repair for anyone suffering from the issue, not to keep ignoring it like they have so far, even when the problem is obviously effecting many customers.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by cozzyd »

Unklejoe wrote: post #211

Can the 3.5mm to Lightning adapters be legally produced without paying royalties to Apple for using the Lightning connector? On a related note: I wonder if one reason for eliminating the jack is to close that open interface which some devices like the "Square" were using. I'm not sure how much of an impact this has though; it was just a thought.

Pretty sure that the adapter would work just as well (I don't know anything about the readers, but assume they are just encoding the CC info as an analog signal and listening to it over the microphone port... I wonder how easily they might be snooped via EMI).

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by clashmoore »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I believe that Apple collected anonymous usage data of how often the headphone jacks were used on their iPhones and determined that it would be safe to remove - even with a vocal group that would complain.

Whenever you install or upgrade to a new OS, Apple prompts users if they'd like to send the anonymous usage data and I feel the headphone jack would be an important data point they've been researching.

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