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Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by simoncion » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:15 PM UTC

J_Shelby_J wrote: post #403

simoncion wrote: post #382

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If you can find an original Glorious [0] Model O, that's a nice piece of hardware. The new Model O looks like it only works with their new, totally garbage Glorious CORE v2 software. If you never want to change the DPIs, lighting, or button assignments, & etc then you don't need the software... so if what the hardware does out of the box is fine for you, then you don't need to worry about how trash CORE v2 is. CORE v…

Model I with four thumb buttons is irreplaceable for me

I also have a Model I and am unhappy with the fact that -when last I checked- you can't configure the three or four extra buttons so they're actually buttons. Your only option is for them to generate keypresses, or do mouse-management functions -such as "cycle DPI"-.

This is... frustrating. Multi-button HID devices are -arguably- easier to do than something that pretends to be both a mouse and a keyboard. I get that some games may not understand how to deal with mice that have more than four or five mouse buttons, it'd be quite nice if I had the option to set things up so that I can use them as buttons in games that know how to handle them.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by mcfedr » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:17 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #75

raverbashing wrote: post #37

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Honestly yeah MS should get all the flack (which is mostly deserved) of this Manufacturer does whatever crap they want with "it works" and then MS gets the complaints A driver should only be that. A driver

> MS should get all the flack (which is mostly deserved) of this I don't see why we can't blame both here? And I'm a big LG user, I'm writing this comment via a LG monitor, our main TV is LG, dishwasher and clotheswasher is also LG. But still, that Microsofts enables this behavior should rightly put them at the stake for this, and also LG should get flack too, just because something is possible doesn't mean you have…

well you can plug the same monitor into a mac and not have this issue.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by mcfedr » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:18 PM UTC

krige wrote: post #225

gkbrk wrote: post #109

A monitor cannot install software on your computer by the way. It's Windows installing this software automatically (for some reason), so the blame should be on Microsoft. Autorun of malware when you plugged in a USB drive was also a Windows issue, I'd classify this as the same security problem.

The monitor should absolutely take the major part of the blame by being the source of the malware and poisoning the system for everyone else.

its not the source though is it? its not like it's downloaded via the hdmi cable, it comes from Microsoft that offer the service of installing crap

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by fsflover » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:19 PM UTC

MatejKafka wrote: post #258

regexorcist wrote: post #166

Seriously, why use Windows in 2026? Such a hideous OS and ecosystem with endless malware, backdoors, and dark patterns.

You know why desktop Linux doesn't have much malware? Because ~no one uses it. That's it. Once you get users, you get malware. The rest of your comment is just as ignorant.

Linux doesn't install malware, because it is free software, which guarantees the four user freedoms. Whenever someone adds malware, anybody else can remove it for everyone or create an equally useful fork without it. Try this with Windows.

In other words, Stallman was right, and proprietary software developers have too much power over users. And they inevitably, sooner or later, leverage this power for (more) profit, even if you paid for the product.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by frollogaston » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:20 PM UTC

regexorcist wrote: post #261

MatejKafka wrote: post #258

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You know why desktop Linux doesn't have much malware? Because ~no one uses it. That's it. Once you get users, you get malware. The rest of your comment is just as ignorant.

There is plenty of malware for Linux. The difference is that the OS won't install it for you.

I don't like the standard practices for installing software in Linux though. Most Mac or Windows users will go to the publisher's website and download. In Linux, it's often recommended to install via a package manager, possibly not even from an official repo, and especially not in Arch. More ways for the supply chain to get compromised, and it has.

So nobody is installing "monitor drivers" for Linux, but they're probably frantically installing packages trying to fix some random issue.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by fsflover » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:23 PM UTC

999900000999 wrote: post #267

regexorcist wrote: post #257

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> Linux is great if you win the hardware support lottery. This is fairly easy to do by just not buying the absolute latest hardware. Installing something like Fedora in a 8-12 month old laptop I just can't recall last time I had issues.

How exactly would a new Linux user know this ? What happens when they install Ubuntu and the Wifi doesn't even work ? An experienced Linux user might figure it out. A new user would, very reasonably, assume Linux doesn't work and reinstall Windows.

> How exactly would a new Linux user know this ?

It's easy: whatever is preinstalled will be guaranteed to work reliably. Worked for me.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by skirmish » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:32 PM UTC

dimgl wrote: post #288

Chaosvex wrote: post #266

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Razer was always low quality garbage at premium prices. Gamer marketing for you.

What do you recommend instead? In my opinion the Razer mice are always superior for FPS.

Mousereview reddit always recommends looking at Chinese gaming mice, they have reasonable prices, often clone popular mouse shapes from large brands (see [1]) and have the latest sensors.

[1] EloShapes find similar: https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/find-similar

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by Dylan16807 » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:37 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #419

MatejKafka wrote: post #242

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How exactly do you propose to sandbox drivers running in kernel space? Do you even know how drivers work? (I'm guessing no, based on this comment)

First of all, drivers don't have to run in kernel space. Do you know that? I'm guessing no, based on your comment. Second, we're not talking about the drivers per se, as those aren't what shows you ads, it's the configuration software and accompanying crapware. Did you get that? I'm guessing no, based on your comment. Third, there are capability-based kernels, microkernels, drivers that are allowed into as restricted…

You don't have to counterbalance every useful sentence with a toxic message.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by antisthenes » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:37 PM UTC

VorpalWay wrote: post #244

AlienRobot wrote: post #120

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Me on Windows 7: I don't want to use Linux, you have to keep configuring every single thing so it works. Me on Linux: I don't want to use Windows, you have to keep configuring every single thing so it doesn't show ads.

Linux usability has come a long way in recent years. I switched full time to Linux in 2006, but I can absolutely understand those who wouldn't back then. These days? Unless there is a specific piece of software that can't run on Linux (or under Wine), and there is no suitable replacement for it? Yeah I don't know why you would voluntarily stay on Windows (note voluntarily, if IT policy says you must that doesn't coun…

Not to mention AI assistants are really good at helping you solve problems on Linux.

Yeah, I know, it's not the same as "knowing" a system when you just copy paste terminal output, but if it solves a problem and converts 1 more person to Linux from W - that's a win.

Re: LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent

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Post by MatejKafka » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 7:38 PM UTC

fsflover wrote: post #424

MatejKafka wrote: post #258

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You know why desktop Linux doesn't have much malware? Because ~no one uses it. That's it. Once you get users, you get malware. The rest of your comment is just as ignorant.

Linux doesn't install malware, because it is free software, which guarantees the four user freedoms. Whenever someone adds malware, anybody else can remove it for everyone or create an equally useful fork without it. Try this with Windows. In other words, Stallman was right, and proprietary software developers have too much power over users. And they inevitably, sooner or later, leverage this power for (more) profit,…

Except there's plenty of proprietary software for linux, you just won't find it in default repos and have to install it manually.