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I understand the purported vulnerability. What I am saying is that I would be surprised if the URL were rendered, let alone made it to the victim.

I ended up making it render automatically, but they didn't really seem to care.

Wow, that's pretty wild. Updating your post with pictures would be cool.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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You can still build a system that isn't vulnerable by limiting the API the LLM can access. A process consuming untrusted comments for summarisation shouldn't have access to account private data, it should just deliver a summary report. Another process can them scan that and remove/disable links etc.

Sure. But that's not what was being suggested in the comment I responded to. (There are also problems with what you're suggesting, though, such as the summary report still being ripe for abuse in similar ways as the blog post describes.)

You can structure the system to cause an LLM an answer structured questions, Y/N or from a structured list of options, or with numeric weights against labels, and then use classical parsing to enforce a compliant response submission, and you do that for random batches of comments, then have another LLM summarise the survey response. It is quite possible to extract sentiment and key topics.

I don't think it's useful to throw your hands in the air and say LLM context statistics are ungovernable. Both context hardening and action shielding architectures are addressing this, and in combination with well designed pipelines the risk is controllable.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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>my engineering licence would be revoked and I would be kicked out of the industry. This isn't because you're a "real" engineer, it's because of regulation and industry licensing around specific engineering disciplines that didn't exist until the start of the 20th century. Railroad engineers in the 1800's didn't have the same set of regulations to follow, or the same liability for mistakes. Software engineering could…

It’s because they’re a “real” professional. Professionals (members of a profession) self-police, something software engineers don’t do.

So no one working on railroads before 1907 was a "real" professional? That's more than 100 years after the railroad was invented and took off.

The Bar exam in the US didn't start until the 1780's, so lawyers before then weren't "real" professionals either?

It's a ridiculous argument.

A better one might be that the externalities and opportunities for software engineering to kill people, or be directly tied to deaths or negative outcomes, didn't exist or weren't well enough documented until recently. As an immature field/industry that's not surprising, but it does point to a responsibility by the community to push for standards that don't currently exist.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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I recently left Google having worked on a number of projects with various YouTube teams. I think I can explain why it's being handled this way by YouTube. This is a fairly nuanced/involved issue, so the task of classifying the bug likely made it's way to one of the engineers responsible for the implementation of this feature. That engineer has already launched this project, and filed it away under their GRAD (perform…

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It's YT creators vs people on/in front of/around trains. People with real jobs and real impact. Nobody would have invaded Iraq if those planes back then crashed into a Hollywood studio. ( exaggeration, chill out )

If a programmer fucked up something "train leaks" related and he ignored that because of xyz, there would be trouble.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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If a train crashes, people die. If Youtube crashes, no one dies.

Unless some sensitive private footage leaks then who knows. You can blame the subsequent action on the individual but if the footage leaked due to a bug Google refused to fix are they completely blameless?

1. If youtube crashed then presumably NO video would be available.

2. If you upload sensitive footage to a public video sharing website, I don't really have any concern for that footage being leaked.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Once I worked in a company that had an ex-Googler on the board, who insisted on calling us engineers and wanted us to call ourselves that. In swedish, of course, 'ingenjörer'. It's not a protected title in Sweden, but we still refused, because we were nothing like engineers. We were a minuscule team of mostly self-taught hackers who happened to be employed to solve business problems in a system for managing other com…

I worked for several American companies in Sweden an all of them insisted on calling us engineers. Many I work with happen to be engineers, but I dropped out before getting my (computer) engineering degree. It's embarrassing. I would never call myself a software engineer or any other kind of engineer (or a doctor or lawyer or anything else I am not).

If I must I call myself a software or systems developer. I make changes aimed at some improvement to software systems involving machines and people in a way that is more like a craft than engineering. In my view I'm closer to a plumber than someone with a degree in technical engineering. I take some inspiration from engineers, but unlike them I work in an environment where simulation can be as good as the real thing, because both are virtual, and simulation is exceedingly cheap. It is not when you're building an ocean going ship or a bridge or a nuclear reactor.

I can also tell my tools to automate my work once I understand it well enough.

One of my more senior colleagues at that company called himself a 'fixer', because to his understanding, what he did was fix things.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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someone hired by the company to understand the application and fix the bug ive inherited a lot of code

Fixing bugs is a great activity for new hires. Gets them familiar with the codebase.

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