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Let's not exchange crap behaviour. I think google would win hands down. Firefox at least has adblocking.
The classic 'those guys did something bad, so I am going to go with the guys who are absolute assholes doing several orders of magnitude more bad things now instead' response. That usually means that whoever utters it was just looking for a sycophantic excuse to go with the bigger threat because it is more convenient to them (for now).
Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
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#422Anyone tried that?
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#423Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#424PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.
I'm a devoted Kagi user and really want to use Orion but keep running into perf issues and jank that frustrate me enough to switch back to something else. My most recent attempt was this past week. You all seem to maintain a very fast pace of development (the changelogs are always chock full of cool stuff) but the problems I am hitting have remained broken for ages. Some examples include: * The app hangs for 1~2 sec…
Some context that might explain (though not excuse) the situation: unlike browsers built on Chromium or Firefox/Gecko, Orion was built from scratch on top of WebKit. No fork, no upstream codebase to pull from. That means every feature, every integration, every compatibility shim is ours to build and maintain. Browsers that fork Chromium or Gecko inherit years of battle-tested extension support, rendering fixes, and platform work for free — we don’t.
On top of that, the macOS team is 3 people. About 70% of our engineering time goes to maintenance and keeping up with WebKit/OS updates, ~20% to third-party app compatibility (extensions like 1Password, ad blocking lists, etc.), and what’s left — maybe 10% — goes to community support, discussions, and new features combined. That’s why our changelogs look active but long-standing issues persist: we’re constantly triaging a backlog with thousands of entries and making painful priority calls every single day.
None of this is meant as an excuse. You’re right that stability matters, and the issues you describe are real. But this is the cost of building a genuine alternative to the browser market rather than shipping another Chromium or Gecko wrapper. We think that trade-off is worth it for users who want real engine diversity and full extension support without Google’s or Mozilla’s constraints.
That said, we can’t do it alone — that’s exactly why Orion+ exists. If you believe in what we’re building, subscribing is the most direct way to help us grow the team and get to that “Snow Leopard” moment faster.
We’re sorry for the rough edges. We know they’re there, and we’re working on it.
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#425PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.
I will consider Orion only when it is open source.
The original Unix philosophy (McIlroy, Ritchie, Thompson) says nothing about source code licensing. It’s about programs that do one thing well and work together through universal interfaces.
Open source is a distribution and licensing model; conflating it with software openness misrepresents those core tenets. Orion supports Chrome extensions, Firefox extensions, and standard web APIs — that’s interoperability in practice.
That being said, the future is not written ;)
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Some pages do not work in Firefox, so I keep a copy of Chrome around. It’s a bit like with Internet Explorer which back in its day was also needed for some stubborn sites.
Me too. Many government or banking sites only work properly on Chrome. Anything with Docusign is Chrome-only.
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You're mis-representing things here. As in my reply further below, Q1 2026 you can see Google makes 70% of revenue from Ads, the non-ad money you refer to is only 1/3. But if you look at net income, 85% of the net income from Google comes from Services (including Ads). The Airlines story is taken out of context and different from Google, Delta for example in the Q1 2026 filing you can see they have a revenue of $15.8…
When someone says that all money a company pays is "money from their main segment", that's intentionally misrepresenting. In this case what's important is what the money is for , not from . Calling it "Firefox had ad-money coming in" can only be bad faith, the usual social media rage bait. Now everyone comes out of the woodwork with "well akshully" because there's an interpretation where they can plausibly claim "tec…
You could say Google has two purposes of funding Firefox:
One is to inject search engine and ad distribution dominance into every known browser.
The other is to prop up Firefox as an alternative browser to avoid monopoly lawsuits.
They're not sponsoring Firefox out of goodness.
Which is why I don't like to be charitable with the interpretation.
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I'll bite: why is it better? Did you try Safari or Firefox or Brave, and find deficiencies you can't live with?
The UI is just better overall. Ever since Chrome came out with the "unified search bar" imho Firefox was behind in usability. Firefox just follows. Like recently didn't they add tab groups after Chrome implemented them? Isn't Brave based on Chrome? Personally I think it is really stupid to choose a browser based on privacy. I choose a browser based on usability. Whats the selling point of Brave? That it hides ads? Sa…
As in: you don't care about your privacy?
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What does uBlock Origin say in response to this? They had a TestFlight debut but i dont know anything beyond that
uBlock Origin Lite had a TestFlight and now works fine as a Safari extension on iOS. uBlock Origin never claimed their Firefox extension works in Orion. So I don't think they need to respond.
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This isn't the gotcha you think it is. Every time I try Vivaldi I am right back at Firefox and I am surely not alone. I have never understood the obsession with tree style tabs or vertical tabs. I don't need to customise my browser at all and I like supporting engine diversity.
The motivation for vertical tabs is pretty straightforward, screens are mostly wider than they are tall, browsers are often used in fullscreen mode, yet much of the web does not use much of the screen's width. So it's a better use of screen space to put tabs on the side than on top.