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Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #408
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure if you are aware but there are ways for the rich and powerful to live, maintain and earn fortunes outside of the US.

Good, let them leave, then. I'm tired of this excuse of "but the parasites are crucial to our way of life". As if the invisible hand won't have dozens of other companies to compete and fill the void should the monopoly man walk away with his money. They've had decades to move to Dubai or New Zealand or whatever other magical country doesn't tax its residents. I wonder why they choose to stay in one of the richest cou…

My point is they can still influence the US even if they / their money isn’t there.

Do you really live in that much of a US-centric bubble where you don’t realise outside influence exists?

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by za3faran »

EA-3167 wrote: post #384
za3faran wrote: post #366

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The Islamic system does not permit uncontrolled capitalism, requires fair financial transactions, is pro rights for both rulers and the population, enforces Zakat (alms tax / a form of wealth tax).

That certainly explains the flood of migrants from the West to the Middle East and North Africa.

If you're being sarcastic, yes lots of westerners are in the region because of lower taxes and other benefits. Otherwise, correlation is not causation, much of the situation there is because of the fallout of western colonization, including Islamic principles being not fully applied there (the west is behind a lot of it), and the usurious financial system.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by za3faran »

bongoman42 wrote: post #383
za3faran wrote: post #366

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The Islamic system does not permit uncontrolled capitalism, requires fair financial transactions, is pro rights for both rulers and the population, enforces Zakat (alms tax / a form of wealth tax).

The middle east has the largest concentration of billionaires outside of US/China and huge poverty alongside. It is so grotesque that the rich will often just kill people and casually pay blood money.

Begin a billionaire is not inherently unethical. It's about how the money was acquired and how it is spent. This notion that it is evil is mainly a western one.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by platevoltage »

nailer wrote: post #275
Georgelemental wrote: post #249

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Russia and China can do that, but I am not sure Saudi and UAE reasonably could. Too small and too enmeshed with the US empire

Saudi could - I think people accept Saudi is a religious oligarchy - but the UAE is a playground of international people avoiding tax and ostensibly a first world country, Facebook being banned would highlight how ridiculous the government that did that is.

The US empire accepted the fact that Saudi Arabia kidnapped and dismembered one of their journalists, among other things such as suspiciously supplying most of the 9/11 hijackers. They kind of have a free pass to do whatever they want.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by johnnyanmac »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #421
johnnyanmac wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good, let them leave, then. I'm tired of this excuse of "but the parasites are crucial to our way of life". As if the invisible hand won't have dozens of other companies to compete and fill the void should the monopoly man walk away with his money. They've had decades to move to Dubai or New Zealand or whatever other magical country doesn't tax its residents. I wonder why they choose to stay in one of the richest cou…

My point is they can still influence the US even if they / their money isn’t there. Do you really live in that much of a US-centric bubble where you don’t realise outside influence exists?

>they can still influence the US even if they / their money isn’t there.

Sure, but I wager not being in the US means less money. And thus less influence

> Do you really live in that much of a US-centric bubble where you don’t realise outside influence exists?

Adding any friction to their influence is a good thing, in my eyes.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by platevoltage »

FloorEgg wrote: post #412
irishcoffee wrote: post #390

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Someone smarter than me can weight on this part, but I don't think it was/is capitalism per se. Moving off the gold standard, and allowing the Dodge Brothers to win the case saying stock holders were more important than paying workers were a 1-2 gut punch to capitalism. I don't believe our forefathers would be very proud of us if they saw this mess.

Capitalism is an extension of nature. Nature can be cruel, but it's still nature. Blaming capitalism for what's happening in America is like blaming an engine for a car not having seatbelts.

No. Anarchism is an extension of nature, and a better analogy would be blaming an engine for only Rolls Royces having seatbelts.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by platevoltage »

bongoman42 wrote: post #382
dotcoma wrote: post #344

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There were times when NASA went to space, not incredibly wealthy individuals…

NASA went and turned itself into a gigantic inefficient bureaucracy to the point that SpaceX considers NASA experience a negative.

Why are we at all concerned with what SpaceX considers a negative?

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by platevoltage »

za3faran wrote: post #366
EA-3167 wrote: post #339

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What’s your more effective, less flawed alternative with a proven track record?

The Islamic system does not permit uncontrolled capitalism, requires fair financial transactions, is pro rights for both rulers and the population, enforces Zakat (alms tax / a form of wealth tax).

Neither does Christianity, but you really wouldn't really know that by observing the practices of so called Christian Nations™

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by juanani »

whatshisface wrote: post #126
yojo wrote: post #102

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I’m taking it as a given that any sufficiently large social network is a gigantic propaganda machine of interest to domestic and foreign nation-state actors. Entertaining the thought experiment where all the normies join the fediverse: now you’ve got a big juicy target maintained by hobbyists. When it’s Lazarus Group vs Randall, the over-worked sys admin who stood up a node in his spare time, who do you think wins? S…

The idea that they would ban their propaganda networks, but not their alternatives, is really baffling...

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Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Post by cebert »

NewCzech wrote: post #219

I'm in the UAE right now. The site www.alqst.org is blocked here. I had to turn on a VPN to read the article. Here, it's not even allowed to read about what's not allowed!

Aren’t you afraid of using a VPN and their being ramifications?
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