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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by joe_mamba »

pjc50 wrote: post #249
joe_mamba wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is not the core issue since he isn't a hereditary monarchical dictator. It's the US population that's the problem, since they voted to put him into power TWICE, which means that they can also do it again, and again, and again, for other candidates not named Trump and not always Republican, but who could be even more unhinged, so we need to do everything to decouple from them so that their election decisions wil…

Well, neither was Orban, and he caused huge problems. The real enduring toxic legacy is the packing of SCOTUS, sold to voters as a means of overturning Roe V Wade but in fact a massive enabler for corruption and gerrymandering. Those guys are there until they die or Democrats grow a spine, probably the former.

>Well, neither was Orban, and he caused huge problems.

Any democratically elected leader can cause huge problems during their mandate, not just Orban or Trump. You have to wait for elections or their term limit to kick them out peacefully.

The difference is whatever the person in the US president seat does, massively affects the whole world, not just the US, which is why we talk a lot more about the huge problems Trump caused rather than what problem the president of Romania, HUngary or Greece cause in their own countries.

The issue remains the voting population to not elect people like Orban or Trump at the next elections. The EU can cancel or sway elections in Romania or Hungary to make sure the right candidate wins, but it can't sway US elections in their favor.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by shimman »

c16 wrote: post #51
aurareturn wrote: post #25

Google Analytics --> Matomo Matomo charges 22 euros for 50k hits/month.[0] Basically, it's unusable for anything other than a hobby site - especially with the number of crawlers nowadays. If you self host for free, you're missing basically all of the good parts of web analytics such as funnel analysis as they lock all of those features being paid subs. [0] https://matomo.org/pricing/

Umami isn't half bad self hosted. Been using it with Docker Compose for a few years now on a LEB and it's working great.

It's not bad but it's a massive resource hog for what it purports to do. Shame that most of the self host analytics use things like typescript or php rather than more performant languages like Go. Speaking of which:

https://github.com/th0th/poeticmetric

Looks interesting but haven't delved in it too much. I do like how I can create specific analytic tracking events without worrying too much about ad blockers but that's hardly unique to Umami.

There's also another interesting analytics open source project whose name I am forgetting. It was written in C or something and was efficient enough to allow free usage or self hosted, it was a simple hit counter I believe.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by shimman »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #41
aurareturn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you pay $20/month for Hacker News access? I think it's fair that GA is free and Google gets some benefits from using the data for their ad network.

"some benefits" is really underselling it though.

Yeah just one of the core pillars that enables their unregulated monopoly that brings in billions of pure profit.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by severino »

maelito wrote: post #135

Scaleway is great. Never had any problem. Has an open-source startup program. https://cartes.app proudly runs on Scaleway.

Do you know if it's possible to cap expenses on Scaleway so you don't end up with unexpected charges (due to bandwidth or whatever)? I mean, having your services stopped until the next cycle begins or you decide to pay more. I knew this wasn't possible for Hetzner, for example, but I'm not sure about this one.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by sixhobbits »

monokai_nl wrote: post #124
vipshek wrote: post #98

> This website has been temporarily rate limited Feels a bit ironic... though this website is hosted on Cloudflare Workers so using an American company anyway?

Well this is nice. Apparently I reached some limits (thanks all), and had to pay Cloudflare more. Fair I guess, although some warning would've been nice. Tried multiple payment options multiple times just now and Cloudflare botched every time without giving me an error message. Finally managed to get it through on the 10th time. Please be gentle now :/

fwiw I've had my site on front page hn a couple of times. It is a completely unoptimized hetzner server running nginx and serving HTML.

computers are _fast_ these days, you're more likely to have an outage from cloudflare than by just skipping it IMO (for basic personal sites, like yours seems to be)

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by 6510 »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #188
embedding-shape wrote: post #151

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> Definitely a change, because it is not something I can recall being important just a couple of years ago. I work as a consultant and freelancer across a bunch of companies, some American but mostly European ones. Last ~8 months or so, the sentiment about "Hosting our data in EU or even our own country" has drastically changed, I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before. The amount o…

Surely there would have been mumblings in certain sectors of the EU since the first Trump administration? It’s just that they started to execute now?

Thats overly flattering, there have always been good arguments for having your data in the same country (if not the same building) A worse case hypothetical trump is really much worse than the real one.

On the other hand it is also lame to shift the blame on the US. A bit like Jim stole your car after you left the doors open, the key in the ignition and the engine running. Jim is a bad man.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by bilekas »

s_dev wrote: post #356
bilekas wrote: post #206

This is really cool, just for curiosity though is Stripe not considered EU anymore? I know it was created in Ireland and didn't hear anything about it changing ?

Irish here, it was never EU or Irish. The Collisons are Irish but Stripe is an American company. The profits are ultimately repatriated to the United States.

Ah I see, don't know where I got the impression they were setup in Ireland! Thanks for the info though.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by jdgoesmarching »

xienze wrote: post #220
schnitzelstoat wrote: post #13

While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. For example, they are discussing restricting VPN access for 'child protection'[1] [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_AT...

> While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. It makes a lot more sense if you realize pretty much the sole motivation behind all this digital virtue signaling is "put my data somewhere Trump isn't." Notice how no one really lists contingencies for "what if the EU goes off the ra…

Virtue signaling apparently means making decisions based on the current reality instead of a future hypothetical.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by tracker1 »

englishrookie wrote: post #383
weberer wrote: post #347

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>I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before Its not about public opinion, but rather data sovereignty requirements. Certain types of data must be processed within servers located in the EU, regardless of where the company's HQ is. That's why you see most SaaS platforms nowadays offer a EU-only version.

Well, there are also noises about the SaaS company preferably not being American. Apparently there's a US law that compels US companies to divulge data on their users even if the data is hosted outside of the US. (I'm not sure this wouldn't happen anyway, without such a law.)

Most nations can coerce information from corporate entities within their nation, even information that corporation holds outside said country. To what extents that coercion can hold will of course vary by local laws, customs and the people in charge. The US has a fairly large media footprint, not to mention it's actual physical size and outsized influence even then. So it is more covered and visible.

Inside the US, the biggest concerns similarly come with China, which I consider a bigger risk. For better or worse, if you're inside the US, you're probably better off holding as much of your presence as you can inside the US as EU requirements can actually be more harmful than helpful in terms of compliance. There are also certain protections and resistance you can take to less than formal (judicial warrant) requests. Only because if you hold an online presence in the EU, and are forced to violate EU laws, then you're in trouble on both sides.

I would assume similar in most cases, though the EU confederation is something I'm far less familiar with where national laws and EU laws conflict, etc. I'm more familiar with US state to federal structures.

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