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New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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It is universal. The flag, the state, the man. Details don't matter.

In the context of UK politics, and given Banksy's previous socio-political work, this statue is probably a response to 'the nationalists': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Raise_the_Colours

Which are not very nationalists nowadays. Its mostly "we want to keep western values and culture".. which now is high treason i guess..

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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He’s a British artist, the sculpture is in London and the phenomenon of raising of St George’s Cross on every lamppost on every roundabout is a recent initiative of the British right. Most people will be linking the statement of this sculpture to this activity. (I’m more likely to see the white rose of the House of York in “opposition” to the flag shaggers than a rainbow or anything else, in my neck of the woods, but…

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Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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I think it's a reasonable statue. But does anyone else think it's a bit obvious, more so than his other work? Like there is no doubt on the meaning at all, it's all right there on the surface level.

> But does anyone else think it's a bit obvious, more so than his other work

I have no idea what it is supposed to mean.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Banksy is the patron saint of the “I’m 13 and this is deep” mentality.

"Blinded by nationalism" I don't know, seems like a clear concise message that has relevance in today's world.

Well, at least he didnt blindly support islamosupremacism..

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Is it? The flag is black, so could be a variety of things, not necessarily even a national flag. Just a flag in a march. (Anarchism uses a black flag.)

To me, the blank (not black) nature of the flag is the point: it's about being blinded by any ideology, even one that the artist or beholder might agree with.

He has made his point so general, that I think it undermines it. It could just as easily be an Esperanto or a CND flag (although we know it won't be either.)

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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He's also king of the "I'll criticize the west but I'll turn a blind-eye to non-democratic countries' wrongdoings" . A trait shared with virtually all intellectuals and artists in the west. There are fights worth fighting: for example there are 300 million women alive who have undergone forced genital mutilation. 300 million ain't cheap change. There are also hundreds of millions of people who applauded the killing o…

The Iran problem is a good example: it was wrong of them to massacre civilians, but you cannot fix this by .. bombing more civilians.

So how do you fix a situation, where one party relentlessly attacks all the time? Israel, does what ukraine does- a strip of death around the country- getting wider as the technology to attack it matures.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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The guy is walking off a cliff and he is blinded by the flag. I assume it is a commentary on Brexit. It is just short of a decade since that vote. Nationalism blinded people and they did something stupid. Not dissimilar to what is going on in the US too.

> I assume it is a commentary on Brexit. I feel more that it is a commentary on "blind nationalism" of which Brexit is one example, but not the only one, or the most recent. Brexit may be "over" now, but the mindset is still very much with us in the UK and elsewhere. In other words, any successful art relates to more than one specific situation, and allows more than one reading.

It probably is partly about Brexit. (I voted Remain by the way!!!) But he has made the blank flag so general that it could be interpreted to be so many other things like a NATO flag, an Esperanto flag, the flag of Essex or an autism pride flag.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Is it? The flag is black, so could be a variety of things, not necessarily even a national flag. Just a flag in a march. (Anarchism uses a black flag.)

And how is blindly following a flag differ between a national flag and an ideology flag?

Depends on which ideology.

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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Anyone else leaving up a huge statue in the middle of the park would be arrested

Yeah, and that is precisely the point. This contradiction at the heart of it does a lot of work and is a very valuable part of the art. This contradiction has led me to think a lot about rules and their role in society and to what extent pure strict rules based societies are a worthwhile goal and on the other hand what it means of we make exceptions.

This is a joke right? If elon musk had done the same thing (which he obviously could) i don't understand what is the value

Re: New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag

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seems missed in the general commentary that there is also an inherent commentary on the western tradition of “blind justice” https://i.etsystatic.com/13403651/r/il/40b0bf/6851322246/il_...

How so? The concept of the 'blindness' of justice is antithetical to blind patriotism.

> The concept of the 'blindness' of justice is antithetical to blind patriotism.

exactly. i mean only to point out that the Banksy work intentionally invokes the figure of Blind Justice to inform the work, however you may interpret it.

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