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Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by a96 »

2143 wrote: post #93
WalterBright wrote: post #50

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I've had multiple Apple touchscreen products. The same on all of them. Sometimes I have to lick my fingertip to get it to register.

We’re going off track, but I’m curious as to whether you experience this problem only on Apple devices, and not – for example – Android devices? (btw, it’s an honor to be able to reply to you; hope you’re doing well :) )

IME, Apple is (as usual) the worst. A Samsung I could even use with work gloves on. A Pixel not quite as well, but it still works great with gloves off as did LG and Sony and whatever else I've used over the years.

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by rsynnott »

Yizahi wrote: post #401

Remember how Volkswagen exec promised exact same thing many years ago and just blatantly lied? I do. I will judge only by the actual actions and not by the empty arrogant lies.

Did they? The id.Polo (I think the first car to come out since VW said they were reversing course there) has quite a lot of buttons. Like arguably a comical number of buttons.

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Post by a96 »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #336
pokstad wrote: post #105

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Needs more buttons

Calculator on the left, dialpad on the right.

Funnily, an old dialpad like dumb phones used to have would be a stellar text entry system for a navigator. Can type pretty fast without looking at the pad or a screen with a little practice. Unlike common touch screens where typing makes you want to murder someone even if you're warm and have all the time in the world.

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by jqbd »

jcgrillo wrote: post #415
raxxorraxor wrote: post #381

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Software in Germany is simply not highly regarded, on the contrary. It is seen as necessary evil at best. Ageing population that finds itself overwhelmed is my guess. There are exceptions, but they are far and few between.

That seems like a good thing. Mostly software doesn't make people's lives better, instead it does the exact opposite. A society that recognizes that, and rejects the people who build it, is ahead of the curve.

Same as with nuclear...

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Post by chasd00 »

donkyrf wrote: post #42
_the_inflator wrote: post #31

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Despite China, IT development is a complete disaster in Germany. All car so called German car manufacturers UX/UI is horrible to say the least. Dieter Rams is the only UX/UI designer, who became famous - outside of Germany. Hartmut Esslinger kind of popularized DR, what an irony, that two Germans made history, but of course not in Germany and even in Germany DR wasn't well known. Braun was a brand and statement, but…

My 992.2 has AA/CarPlay, and an outstanding user interface, with a nice mix of configurable displays and physical buttons. Fairly certain it is a top 100 product in it's market.

> My 992.2 has AA/CarPlay, and an outstanding user interface

kind of ironic because, IMO, the only priority for UX in a car like that is a steering wheel, gas pedal, and brake pedal.

/not jealous.. well maybe a little :)

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Post by tim333 »

rconti wrote: post #376

I'm looking at buying a used Porsche Macan. Through 2021 they were absolute button-fests, with a console absolutely littered with physical buttons. In 2022, they moved to a piano black console with haptic "buttons". It also seems like there are somehow fewer of them; I'm not sure if more functions moved into the touchscreen or what. Anyway, needless to say, I have no interest in the 2022+ with the haptics.

My 2010 merc is a button fest. About a hundred of the things and no touch screen.

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Post by [deleted] »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #214
m_fayer wrote: post #209

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Might sound hyperbolic but this is clearly the softly smiling fascist menace of the corporate regime. A gentle friendly assumption that we are all eager to partake in “euphemism for platform-serfdom”. Our desire to “connect/share/express/etc” is simply taken for granted. And what if you just don’t want to? We’re sorry, but that’s simply not an option.

All I hear is you hate connecting with people.

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Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

jcgrillo wrote: post #412
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #278

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> Analog tach and speedo with idiot lights for critical alerts (there is literally an ISO standard for this) should be mandated by law. Substitute tach for a battery monitor in an EV. You don't need a tacho. Some people add them in, like the Mini dashboard in the pic below, but they are absolutely not necessary. We managed fine without them for long enough. https://treasuredcars.com/public/uploads/2019/10/22/mini_cla…

See also Mercedes W115 and W123 240D. Even the ones with a manual transmission had a clock where the tach would go. The speedometer had a series of dots at particular speeds that indicate the shift points for each gear (e.g. 1 dot for 1-2 shift, 2 dots for 2-3, 3 dots 3-4). I'm not sure whether a tach was even an option. The higher spec models had them, though.

My W123 230TE definitely had a tach, and also the shift point dots, and a 3-speed thirstymatic.

I wish I still had it.

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