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Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

tedivm wrote: post #8

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

All of that is revisionist history at best. GitHub was a pile a shit long before Microsoft bought it has everyone forgotten when it would be a coin-flip on any given day if the site was even functional?

GitHub was in the right place at the right time to be a success despite the fact it's a massively clobbered together mess.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by funkaster »

I really like forgejo, but for OSS it's a complete no-no unless they want to manage PRs by email. Maintaining a forgejo instance and allowing anyone to join is a recipe for headaches. Until forgejo figures out the federation aspect (allow to send PRs from other forgejo instances, or some other distributed way), it will be hard for OSS to adopt them and keep the collaboration aspect.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by bagxrvxpepzn »

motoxpro wrote: post #417
bagxrvxpepzn wrote: post #410

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This is not good intentioned, you're a jerk, and it's 100% fine (and healthy) to care about things in life.

> This is not good intentioned

On what are you basing that?

> it's 100% fine (and healthy) to care about things in life.

Yes it is and I didn't claim it wasn't, so this is a strawman.

There's nothing personally indicting about having low testosterone. It's relatively common and it's potentially a serious medical condition. There is no reason to take offense from this.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by esafak »

mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

> GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better

Quote the opposite. We need to leave so they receive the message in order to fix it. As far as the suits know, life is swell. So much so they can't keep up with demand. Be sure to say why you are leaving too, so they know what to fix.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by tksb »

devin wrote: post #129
idan wrote: post #96

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Hi there! Longtime fan and hubber here. It's okay to have emotions. I have similar emotions. I'm GitHub User 22723 which is effectively the same as you (considering there's ~180m GH accounts nowadays) My version of your post reads differently: "GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better" Walking away would be easy. I felt that way when I left Heroku ~six years ago. I left that jo…

If anyone reading this is curious of their own, you can go to https://api.github.com/users/YOUR_USERNAME_HERE and fetch it. My ID is just over 10,000. Crazy to think of the journey that I've had in computing since I signed up for GitHub.

Genuinely surprised to be just over 10k too! Felt late!

No idea how my two character handle made it through… Probably the wrong thread to ask anyone at GH to allow me to block notifications anytime anyone mentions "@ts" but I've come to accept it at this point, lol.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by tux033 »

From a security perspective, centralization cuts both ways.

Large platforms like GitHub have strong security teams and fast patching, but they also concentrate risk. A single vulnerability or abuse pattern can affect a huge portion of the ecosystem.

Decentralizing critical infrastructure doesn’t eliminate risk, but it distributes it.

What It Means for Open Source, Infrastructure and Security: https://tux.re/forum/viewtopic.php?t=183

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by serial_dev »

reducesuffering wrote: post #349
shimman wrote: post #301

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Honestly the arrogance of their workers are truly astounding. It also tracks that someone with little software experience would become GitHub's staff research engineer. Truly a massive signal that we can't let these companies lead the direction of tech in our country.

You weren't kidding. They're an anthropologist who went into design a few years ago because "it's not terribly employable" and as of less than 1 year ago was a "Lead Design Engineer at Normally"? This is GitHub Staff eng steering the direction of the concept of PRs?

“Few years ago” is about a decade in design, to be fair.

I’m not sure what staff level means at GitHub, but at some other companies it’s just “senior++”, and people with 10yoe get that title quite often.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by theappsecguy »

_doctor_love wrote: post #138
tedivm wrote: post #8

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

> insider perspective on this I do not work at MSFT but I don't feel that I need insider perspective to understand what's going on. GitHub is being managed the way other services get managed once they're bought by big companies. Initially fine, then starts to decline, then eventually craters. Everything becomes the numbers game. Microsoft, Oracle, VMware, CA (where software goes to die), Salesforce, the list goes on.…

Slack has suffered the same thing under Salesforce.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by tksb »

psadauskas wrote: post #336
devin wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anyone reading this is curious of their own, you can go to https://api.github.com/users/YOUR_USERNAME_HERE and fetch it. My ID is just over 10,000. Crazy to think of the journey that I've had in computing since I signed up for GitHub.

Fun story about that: In Ruby 2.x, the version GitHub originally launched with, every object implemented the method `id`, which returned the object id (in 3.x, it was renamed to `object_id`). Every object had this id, ActiveRecord models, strings, floats, integers, booleans, etc. Some objects had fixed object ids, like `true.object_id #=> 20`, `false.object_id #=> 0`, `123.object_id #=> 247 (2n+1)`. The `object_id` f…

These are the fun anecdotes that make perusing comments here so worth it. Thanks for sharing!
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