Smoking ban for people born after 2008 in the UK agreed

Post by drcongo » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 9:07 AM UTC

ben_w wrote: post #418

drcongo wrote: post #416

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I'm a bit late responding on my own sub-thread, but if you haven't seen these photos before, this is roughly what every city centre in the UK looks like after dark. https://www.maciejdakowicz.com/cardiff-after-dark/

Not Havant, though I was there to 18 and would've only had the independence to examine the nightlife for the two years in which I was doing my A-levels; not Aberystwyth as a university student, nor Plymouth city in my industrial year even though I lived here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Capitol+Students+Central+P... Likewise, Cambridge was far too genteel for that, when I lived there. Sheffield managed one nigh…

Post by Cytobit » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 10:54 AM UTC

lokar wrote: post #149

themaninthedark wrote: post #140

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Yes, this is one of the reasons there is resistance to socialized health care. People view it as opening the door to the government controlling what they due due to health care costs. Sure, I dislike smoking, I really don't drink that much either. But then it leads to questions such as; What about birth defects? What about extreme sports(risk of permanent injury)? There was a scandal in Canada recently about veterans…

IMO they should just charge a premium for smoking that about covers the expense overall

Post by testing22321 » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 1:45 PM UTC

Cytobit wrote: post #422

testing22321 wrote: post #396

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I think making a society more healthy should be a goal. You already can’t legally do a lot of things that appear to only be about yourself because society as a whole said it’s not good for everyone. You can’t buy cocaine. You can’t commit suicide (it’s illegal almost everywhere) . You can’t ride a motorbike without a helmet, or drive a car without a seatbelt. You can’t even build a house without a smoke detector or r…

We should empower people to live healthier lives, not subjugate them.

Post by Mawr » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 9:48 PM UTC

rcxdude wrote: post #207

afavour wrote: post #34

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I see smoking as a separate category owing to the existence of second hand smoke. Smoking in a room with other people adversely affects those people. I think government is the correct body to be intervening in that scenario.

Smoking is already banned in public spaces and workplaces. It's pretty rare to be in a room with someone smoking unless they're friends or family.

Post by bcjdjsndon » Mon, Apr 27, 2026, 9:30 AM UTC

nutjob2 wrote: post #245

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #3

Alcohol costs the UK 4-5x more than smoking. Coincidentally, it's the upper classes drug of choice. Must be a coincidence though

Alcohol is the deadliest and has the biggest social costs of any drug. Nicotine is second, heroin is a distant third. Drugs that are largely harmless, like MDMA, are illegal with heavy penalties. Drug policy is largely nonsense and rampantly hypocritical.