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Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by ErneX »

spwa4 wrote: post #384
ErneX wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot to mention that some of the people behind the catalonian independence movement met with Russians who even offered military support if they went ahead with a proclamation of independency. I think we should all move on from that bizarre situation.

... and the currently in power party in Spain, while they have publicly condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine, also argues passionately against EU sanctions against Russia, and has consistently increased LNG imports from Russia (meaning already years ago, it's not a reaction to the Hormuz situation) Oh and both are pro-China too. I guess they're trying to open the next huge can of worms preemptively. Why wait? So, y…

The conflict has really cooled off since then though.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by saintfire »

cryptonym wrote: post #402
direwolf20 wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Country-wise it's risky to block the entire internet when football is on.

1 - Cloudflare is not the entire internet. 2 - They close people who decide to go with a cheap/free shared host. Solutions exist if this market is important to your business.

Just a small 30% of the top 10k sites.

Needing to find solutions to a problem completely manufactured by sports and television is the problem.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by mrroper »

necovek wrote: post #182
ryandrake wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever I get a little down over how much power unelected corporations have in my country, I can at least cheer myself up a little by being thankful that something as stupid as football doesn't have enough power here to control whether or not I have internet access.

La Liga is basically operating like an "unelected corporation" as well.

The problem is probably just distributed responsibility. If I lived in Spain I'd set their website as my proxy for everything that doesn't work before I filed my complaints so they could directly address each problem..

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by Barbing »

jjcm wrote: post #117

Barring an Internet giant suing them in court, it really feels like this is unlikely to change as most just don’t understand the why or the effect. Someone needs to write a heist movie set in Spain where a key part of the plan is they steal something while La Liga is blocking some key security route.

Top notch idea

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by bombcar »

drob518 wrote: post #378
bombcar wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d love for a way to put all my sites behind Cloudflare only during La Liga matches.

Why?

Because if everyone did it, the absurdity of La Liga being able to Iran the entirety of the Spanish internet might become apparent.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by dankwizard »

dariosalvi78 wrote: post #362
micw wrote: post #299

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Who exactly is blocking and on what legal base? If it's Spanish ISPs and they are massively over blocking, why are there no legal actions against them? (E.g. for not fulfilling their contracts)

it's institutional corruption at all levels, legislative, executive and judicial. A systemic failure that favour abnormous private profits over basic rights of the citizens. The effort required to change the situation is massive.

What right exactly? I don't think there's a human right for access to all IP addresses.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by admiralrohan »

bombcar wrote: post #426
drob518 wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Because if everyone did it, the absurdity of La Liga being able to Iran the entirety of the Spanish internet might become apparent.

Easier to boycott La liga matches. They are the root problem.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Post by cryptonym »

saintfire wrote: post #423
cryptonym wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1 - Cloudflare is not the entire internet. 2 - They close people who decide to go with a cheap/free shared host. Solutions exist if this market is important to your business.

Just a small 30% of the top 10k sites. Needing to find solutions to a problem completely manufactured by sports and television is the problem.

Cloudflare is a private company, they might (unwillingly) benefit from hosting illegal services. They don't implement a quick or proactive process to take down content that is obviously illegal. The money made by illegal streaming websites doesn't end in good pockets, which raises further concerns. Such streaming is quickly spawn for the event, then disappear. Even if you fight them legally after the event, they operate from countries that won't cooperate.

Cloudflare could change their policy to take down quickly obvious abuse during live events. They could proactively check new customers before allowing public traffic.

People can vote against protecting property if they think it creates unreasonable effects.

Not sure where you got your stats but top website owners can easily deploy technical solutions to this issue.

We live in a complex word. This problem is not completely manufactured by bad people at sports and television companies. What should right owners do? Accept that content they own is streamed illegally, for profit, and not use recourses the law provides?

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