Using Ai for writing, Now I first try to draft things out of my mind and then ask it to find mistakes and red flags.
Asking it to draft was weakening my own skills.
Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?
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where children were maimed or where people worked for 12h a day in horrendous conditions Such things were super uncommon before the industrial revolution, I'm sure.
Working conditions did decline as a result of industrialization. It wasn't until around the 20th century that we could say working conditions were better for most people than pre-industrial society.
More workers died working the fields prior to the Industrial Revolution, than in factories.
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Because there is always work to do. It is true that demand will drop for those that don't take initiative and aren't sure what to do now that AI can do their repetitive tasks. However, demand will surge for those that can think critically about how to utilize AI to empower businesses. "Software engineer" as a profession is rapidly getting automated at my company, and yet our SWEs are delivering more value than ever b…
you might want to brush up on the short and medium consequences of the industrial revolution and the dark satanic mills where children were maimed or where people worked for 12h a day in horrendous conditions. Do you think because 2 dev are now super productive with AI, the company will keep the other average 30 devs? no, of course not, they will fire and pocket the difference. Same for other industries, where AI wil…
> Do you think because 2 dev are now super productive with AI, the company will keep the other average 30 devs? no, of course not, they will fire and pocket the difference
Yes, they will keep the other devs that can figure out how to use AI well. Businesses want to grow.
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Yeah maybe some workplaces are starting to get more organized but in general there's teams with anti-LLM engineers still and some that have Claude Code running all day.
Yes, extremes which seems to fit the general sentiment of the world right now. For a while, it felt like I'm in a minority when I was saying that it can be a useful tool for certain things but it's not the magic that the sales guys are saying it is. Instead, all the hype and the "get rid of your programmers" messaging made it into this provocative issue. HN was not immune to this phenomenon with certain HN accounts p…
IDK, it's been pretty magical at our big tech.
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This is awesome. It's sad that examples like this are few and far between.
Are they? Or do you just mean that it's few and far between that we hear about them? If it's the former, I think there's a much bigger universe of this kind of stuff than most people realize. Otoh, if you're just commenting on the lack of coverage, then, yeah I agree I wish more publicity was paid to small software like this. Maybe we need a catchy term - "organic software"? "Locally grown software"?
I talked to my friends who aren't in tech a lot about what they would want with software. A lot of the benefits of small software like this would actually be compliance and reporting issues with non-profit. Sifting through large amounts of data with very unstructured inputs.
The actual community building is fairly not as automated unless you have very specific problems. Like even in the example above, having an automated message is useful but staffing the team to handle when things are NOT in a good spot would probably be the real scaling cost.
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#426This might sound like snark, but I truly don’t mean it that way. I think what’s interesting about AI, and why there’s so much conversation, is that in order to be a good user of AI, you have to really understand software development. All the people I work with who are getting the most value out of using AI to deliver software are people who are already very high-skilled engineers, and the more years of real experienc…
This! I've actually learned a lot about what I don't know by using AI. It made me dig into learning proper systems design, app architecture, etc. But at the same time the more I read about AI, the more I realize I need to learn about AI. Thus far I'm just using cursor and the Claude code extension alongside obra superpowers, and I've been quite happy with it. But on Twitter I see people with multiple instances of Cla…
It’s telling those people mostly talk about the complexity of the AI setup they’ve engineered to write code. Much more so than bragging about the software created by that process.
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> AI is fine. The hype is annoying. I'm finding the detractors worse than the hype, because it seems like a certain subset of detractors [0] formed their opinion on AI in late 2022/early 2023 when ChatGPT came out (REALLY!? Over 3 years ago!?) and then never updated their opinions since then. They'll say things like "why would I want to consume X amount of energy and Y amount of water just to get a wrong answer?" In…
Follow closely on what the detractors say. Most of them are using AI themselves and are just pushing back on the hype or other ludicrous claims and that's a good thing. Is the current crop of Gen AI anything near AGI? Is it worth the current valuation? Can a company fire most staff and run on gen AI? We may see the economy completely crash and not because AI takes over but because of bad investments, hype and greed.
The same detractors I know today that use AI, said that LLMs were useless slop generators that would never amount to anything just a year or two ago.
Detractors, doomers, and techno-pessimists have got to be the most consistently wrong group in history. https://pessimistsarchive.org/
Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?
#428I’m certainly tired of hearing about it. HN is inundated by repetitive, boring AI articles. This helps a bit I think: https://hn-ai.org/.
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#429If its becoming just another thing in the toolbox that means its winning. Boring and useful tech stays around.
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This is really not true. There are stories of people who had no background in software engineering who now write entire applications using AI. And I have personally seen this happen.
Before AI, there were also stories of people who had no background in software engineering who wrote entire applications using their fingers. This was called "learning to be a software engineer". I don't mean to snipe at AI, because it really does seem to have set more people on the path of learning, but I was writing VB5 apps when I was 14 by copying poorly understood bits and pieces from books. Now people are doing…
I have never seen people learn how to be a software engineer in a weekend tho.