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Post by tim333 »

throwaw12 wrote: post #256
gizajob wrote: post #69

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I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

> tens of thousands of their own citizens Any credible source for this? 1. Western media is not credible because West treats Iran as enemy 2. Iranian media is not credible because they obviously want to hide facts when they're negative Now my question is, why are you spreading unverifiable information as something credible and building your facts on top of it?

Not sure how credible but iranintl.com has

>36,500 killed in 400 cities... Our Editorial Board has now obtained more detailed information provided by the IRGC Intelligence Organization to the Supreme National Security Council.

they are an Iranian opposition outfit funded but the Saudis. (https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198)

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Post by cardanome »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #401
cardanome wrote: post #111

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Well China is still getting Iranian oil no problem. We in the West, well we are aiding the US in this war by allowing it to operate from military bases in our countries. We deserve it for looking the other way while Israel has been mass murdering Palestinians for more than two years now. At least Spain showed some guts. Of course it will also potentially cause suffering in the global south but that is on those that s…

> We deserve it for looking the other way while Israel has been mass murdering Palestinians for more than two years now. The sad part is how the genocide in Gaza could have been prevented: Imagine an alternate history, in which successive precedencies didn't turn a blind eye to Iran, imagine a decade ago (regardless of democrat or republican administration) that they decided to do what they are doing today in Iran. I…

The genocide against the Palestinians has not started after October 7th though but long before the Islamic Republic of Iran even existed. In the Nakba of 1948 as much al 750k Palestinians lost their homes.

Hezbollah came to be as a resistance group against the invasion of Lebanon by Israel.

The reason both Hamas and Hezbollah exists is because Israel.

There can not be peace in the region as long as Israel exists. They are a settler colonial state build and sustaining itself by the dead bodies and suffering of the Palestinians.

> the rest of the world would have strongly condemned it to the point of military intervention on behalf of Gaza / Lebanon.

That is completely delusional.

I Iran had fallen ten years ago, there would be no Palestinians anymore. No one would have stopped Israel from killing them. Israel would have annexed South Lebanon, part of Syria, Egypt and so on and created Greater Israel.

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Post by alephnerd »

arkensaw wrote: post #319
alephnerd wrote: post #4

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Yep. Hence why I posted it. > previously-unknown It was implied by Iran's space program. There's a reason most regional powers also invested in a space program as well as a civilian uncles program. The name of the game is dual-use technologies. The Biden admin also warned about Iran-NK collaboration on building these kinds of capabilities [0] [0] - https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/defence-news/us-officia...

> civilian uncles program I know its just a typo but lol'ed so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RejrrkrRShM

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Post by yongjik »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #412
yongjik wrote: post #244

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I don't know which country you're from, but in most countries, "our troops may get bombed if we join this war" is a very strong public argument against joining the war. Just look at Trump's latest attempt to enlist his "allies" into sending warships to the Strait of Hormuz, and what a resounding success it was.

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So you are embarrassed that your leaders don't want their soldiers to die in a war started by another country without providing any semblance of justification?

...I'm just glad that European politicians take their soldiers' lives more seriously than the court of public opinions. Well, at least some of them. That's the mark of being an adult.

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Post by fnordpiglet »

nozzlegear wrote: post #50
fnordpiglet wrote: post #8

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They’ve been preparing for this day for 5 decades, and I wouldn’t believe this administrations propaganda if they claimed the sky was blue.

Five decades doesn't seem to mean much when most of their leadership, military and air defenses can be laid prostrate by the US and Israel in a couple of days. I don't ever take Trump for his word, but neither do I think there's wisdom in believing that a technologically superior force couldn't easily wipe out Iran's ballistic-capable navy just because they've been preparing for a long time. Edit: am I wrong? Can cop…

You’re wrong in a few ways -

- Iran has structured the functioning of its government and military to be highly resilient to decapitation. Every function has redundancy and every military unit can exercise autonomy. Their goal is to build a theocratic revolution around an ideology and not a personality, and intentionally built a system to survive a hostile environment.

- You have to find what you want to destroy and quantity can out last highly sophisticated and expensive systems. They have been aware of satellite imaging for some time and almost certainly have planned for closing the straight against the US navy for decades. What they have going for them is asymmetric warfare that relies on mass and surprise. For instance, the $20,000 drone that requires multiple $4mm interceptors to stop. They can just keep dropping those randomly indefinitely on their time table and burn a steady supply of interceptors that are increasingly spread out then roll out the hypersonic missiles they have but haven’t even used yet knowing the defenses have been spread thin across an ever increasingly wide region as they demonstrate the radius of attack they have. Ground warfare would be against an enemy who has fortified and prepared for decades with full awareness of our capabilities as we demonstrated them globally.

- the idiocy of a talk show host leading a military commanded by a real estate developer turned reality tv show host with delusions of megalomaniacal grandeur can self defeat any military against any foe

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Post by alephnerd »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #384

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I hope this the HN moderator team is actively looking at this.

Based on the live HN dataset on HuggingFace [0], it confirms that much of HN's recent traffic doesn't align with American hours.

I've also been noticing some unused and underused accounts suddenly becoming active, showing hallmarks of an LOTL attack. Given HN's unique characteristics it is actually significantly at risk for such tactics.

I've also been messing around with the types of responses I write over the past few months as a smoke test - it feels DRAGONBRIDGE-esque.

[0] - https://huggingface.co/datasets/open-index/hacker-news

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Post by spaghetdefects »

upcoming-sesame wrote: post #409
spaghetdefects wrote: post #20

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Iran was attacked. Israel and the US are the threat, Iran is just practicing very common sense self-defense.

It's easy to assume the war started when Iran was attacked by the US and Israel, but in fact Iran has been fighting a proxy war for decades already and not just with Israel (Hezbollah) but also with Saudi Arabia (Houtis) and more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conf...

Israel has been fighting a proxy war with much of the world since Zionism was conceived. I value Iran's assistance in this matter. They were however attacked first by the US and Israel. That's not debatable.

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Post by magic_hamster »

Hikikomori wrote: post #395
srean wrote: post #347

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Then don't go asking for a report in all of your comments on this page where you have, once is enough. Forensic Architecture is one of the most reputed organizations for this line of work. Their reports are read with great deal of respect here on HN and they cover more than this conflict. If they don't count as credible and competent, nothing will satisfy you -- the moral equivalent of covering one's eyes and ears. S…

>For HN audience, the report was discussed on HN here He's in there as well, truly unapologetic Zionist.

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Post by johnxbar »

throwawayheui57 wrote: post #239
cardanome wrote: post #188

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> Hundreds of people died when security forces sought to crush the demonstrations, along with dozens of members of the police and Basij militia. Iranian intelligence operatives internally concluded that some of the violence was being encouraged and facilitated by Israeli operatives, according to the sources. “Foreign actors linked to Israeli intelligence services had, over time, established contact—through various so…

In a war where Israel and US are literally bombing the hell out of Iran, fewer people have been killed than those two days of massacre. All according to the numbers confirmed by Iranian government. God, the moral depravity of defending the IRGC and islamic regime is mind boggling. You can still be against Mossad and what they do in Iran while holding the islamic regime accountable for its own atrocities.

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Post by magic_hamster »

srean wrote: post #347
magic_hamster wrote: post #336

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I'd appreciate if you didn't spam the same link all over my comments, once is enough. And as for "forensic architecture", please visit their website and go over who these people are - especially the Palestinians from Ramallah and self proclaimed "activists". This is by no means an unbiased organization.

Then don't go asking for a report in all of your comments on this page where you have, once is enough. Forensic Architecture is one of the most reputed organizations for this line of work. Their reports are read with great deal of respect here on HN and they cover more than this conflict. If they don't count as credible and competent, nothing will satisfy you -- the moral equivalent of covering one's eyes and ears. S…

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