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In the 80s-90s his positions would have aligned fine with the center left.

Some of them, perhaps. I don't think the center left would ever have been into the birther conspiracy.

No, I'm pretty sure they would have. I remember during the primaries, Hillary tried to attack Obama by showing him in a "Muslim" garment.

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I don't see how this matters. Whoever thinks I'm horrible is 100% allowed to say this after I'm dead.

Or, another option is that we could all give grace to others, even (especially) if they disagree with us.

I'm fine with people disagreeing with me. I'm not fine when that disagreement results in campaigning for legally restricting the rights of others. There's a huge difference.

If every racist, homophobe, and transphobe (and others) would stop trying to enshrine their views into law, I'd have much less of a problem with them. I wouldn't want to hang out with them, but I could safely ignore and not care one bit about their views.

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Maybe for people in the US. Internationally? I haven't watched a single episode of WTR, I don't know anyone who has, but everyone knows who Chuck Norris was.

I'm Swedish and I was only vaguely aware Chuck Norris even had a career outside the jokes.

Belgian here, only thing I ever watched that had Chuck in it was Way of the Dragon.

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> would he be remembered anywhere as well? You underestimate how popular Walker, Texas Ranger was. It wasn't pulling ratings like Seinfeld, ER, or Friends, but it was a solid primetime staple for almost a decade. I never watched it myself, but the 50+ demo loved it.

Maybe for people in the US. Internationally? I haven't watched a single episode of WTR, I don't know anyone who has, but everyone knows who Chuck Norris was.

So Chuck Norris is an Anna Kournikova, famous for having been moderately famous and monetized ad infinitum?

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"Don't speak ill of the dead"? How about "Don't be a bad person when you're alive"?

Great advice. Do you follow it? Is there one way to be a good person? Does being a good person also mean agreeing with your politics?

> Does being a good person also mean agreeing with your politics?

Can we stop framing human rights as "politics"? People hating on others because they don't like that they're gay or trans or black or brown... that's just people being fundamentally awful people, and has nothing to do with politics.

The fact that they are then taking their awfulness and engaging politically to enshrine their awful views into law just adds another dimension to it.

I said this in another comment: if these people with awful views would stop trying to make those awful views laws, then I'd have much less of a problem with them; I could at least just ignore them.

> Is there one way to be a good person?

What a useless, one-dimensional take on the problem.

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My dad was a film reporter in the late '70s/early '80s, and told me that Chuck Norris had been one of the friendliest celebrities he had ever met. My dad had some antiquated views himself too. People can have/be both, I suppose.

That's the thing: you can be a perfectly pleasant person to interact with, and people can genuinely enjoy interacting with you.

But then you can start actively using your celebrity status to advocate for legally restricting the rights of people you don't like. That's the real problem, and that's why I wouldn't want to look at people like Chuck Norris as role models.

Being polite doesn't make you a good person. It just makes you tolerable, or even pleasant, in personal interactions.

Sure, we can talk about things like your dad's experience. But there's more to it than that.

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A surprising amount of people are single issue voters and will vote for and support someone that supports that single issue. They might not care at all about the entire rest of the issues at all as long as their single issue is fine, and a lot of those single issues, like guns, long predate maga or the tea party. I'm not saying that makes them good people, I'm just saying I don't think it's the same thing as maga. 2…

The Senate though also decided the cabinet and the Supreme Court. Thats the major issue - especially the Supreme Court. To your other point, I’ve met some Bush/Romney type Republicans who hold their nose and voted for Trump because the Democrats did go to far on social issues and I say that as a Black guy. When I was at BigTech in 2020 I thought all of the videos we had to watch on “micro aggressions”, continue annou…

Part of the problem is we changed the senate selections to votes. Originally state legislature picked their senators. That's an amendment that I think is a mistake and should be reverted.

The different chambers are supposed to represent different interests and instead we've made both halves of congress effectively the same thing.

There's deeper rot with the system besides these things - like the apparent lack of safeguards against the executive branch just... ignoring everything, including sometimes even the supreme court... but I don't think the framer's original intentions for the house and senate are fundamentally incorrect.

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> 500 lb barbell curls ?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-2-oV5vk8q/?igsh=MWFtZmR5MHl... EDIT: acknowledged. fake.

To be clear, this is 100% a joke.

The world (at least as of a few years ago), was about half that weight.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/pdklnx/le...

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The Senate though also decided the cabinet and the Supreme Court. Thats the major issue - especially the Supreme Court. To your other point, I’ve met some Bush/Romney type Republicans who hold their nose and voted for Trump because the Democrats did go to far on social issues and I say that as a Black guy. When I was at BigTech in 2020 I thought all of the videos we had to watch on “micro aggressions”, continue annou…

Part of the problem is we changed the senate selections to votes. Originally state legislature picked their senators. That's an amendment that I think is a mistake and should be reverted. The different chambers are supposed to represent different interests and instead we've made both halves of congress effectively the same thing. There's deeper rot with the system besides these things - like the apparent lack of safe…

How would taking away voting power from the people have been better? Especially now that while the state houses can get super majorities via gerrymandering but Senators have to appeal to a much wider base. There is a reason that you have more crazies in the house than the Senate.

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It was so funny how that whole thing happened. For the first time in over a decade he was suddenly relevant in a way. People remembered he existed, and they were playing off his tough guy image. And what did he do? Try and shut it down and start suing people. Stupid. It took him a couple of years to come around to it. If it wasn’t for those jokes would he be remembered anywhere as well? Or would he be a much more obs…

> would he be remembered anywhere as well? You underestimate how popular Walker, Texas Ranger was. It wasn't pulling ratings like Seinfeld, ER, or Friends, but it was a solid primetime staple for almost a decade. I never watched it myself, but the 50+ demo loved it.

I can report that french reddit thread all mention Walker Texas ranger all along the page. These Sunday lunch shows hit different.
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