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US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by rapind »

newsclues wrote: post #180
cheesecompiler wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a significant majority of people in Canada who not only vocally decided to not go to US but discourage their friends from doing so too. People have judged me for driving through the states.

As a Canadian, most of those people stating this, are broke and can't afford to travel, so the anti Trump thing is a face saving excuse. Just a observation from my personal life, my friends who aren't broke, are still going to Florida, etc.

Ridiculous take that Florida is expensive like it's some kind of luxury trip.

Florida was always a budget option for us. It's always been a quick, easy (you can drive), low risk break to get away from the cold. I just don't feel like dealing with CBP and random MAGAs right now to be honest. Wife is low-key stressed about the idea. I mean at best it's a hassle... so why bother?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Spivak wrote: post #360
Herring wrote: post #327

Since the end of WW2, and especially since the end of the Cold War, Democratic administrations have presided over significantly higher job growth than Republican administrations. https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.c...

Because The DNC actually is what the Republican marketing pamphlet claims to be, a mildly right leaning pragmatic pro-business party.

> mildly right leaning

This is nonsense even if we calibrate to North America and the EU (versus the American voting public).

Within America, Democrats are center left. Internationally it’s a hodgepodge of left-wing social, centre right-wing foreign and across-the-board economic policy.

It’s fine to say the part is right of your preferences. But it doesn’t help your argument to be delusional about where other Americans stand.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

JohnMakin wrote: post #379
TwoNineA wrote: post #163

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1/3 explicitly approve and 1/3 implicity approve. If my math is mathing, that's 2/3 and it's larger than 1/2.

This is extremely lazy and unrigorous reasoning that could be extended dishonestly to any number of things. Oh, you aren't protesting genocides? You must support them then. Oh, you're not helping feed hungry people in poor countries? Guess you support child starvation. Oh, you're not contributing to the Rust ecosystem? ...............

None of those are comparable to the simple and quick act of voting against a treasonous candidate for US president.

This wasn’t a bad candidate vs worse candidate situation, it was someone who supports breaking apart the trust and foundation of the country solely for personal gain versus someone who at least believed in providing a veneer of civility.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by [deleted] »

s_dev wrote: post #330
fckgw wrote: post #315

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What part did they find "terrifying"?

ICE agents shooting US citizens, the mass shootings, the school shootings, the crime rate and fentanyl 'bend' posture that makes loads of poor people look like zombies, the aggressive police with guns who sometimes shoot people, burglaries that involve shootings. A lot of the problems in America seems to stem from guns and drugs but also policy. Even something as simple as crossing the road is unnecessarily complicat…

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Post by Retric »

ryandrake wrote: post #299
mrbombastic wrote: post #224

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Agreed but we also have to stop saying "the majority support this" or "half the country supports this" it ain't true and leads people to feel hopeless.

Yet, if we re-did the election today, we'd have the same outcome. People might not support what is happening but they will never "vote for the other guy." I personally know people who disagree with everything that's going on, but they'll still vote (R) next time "because I'm a (R)," as if it's their intrinsic physical trait like hair color.

Elections are decided as much by who shows up as who each individual supports.

If the election was held tomorrow it’s likely many people that voted for Trump wouldn’t go, and many people who didn’t care enough to show up would.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

kspacewalk2 wrote: post #397
irishcoffee wrote: post #308

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> I’m not saying tourism is not a factor or denying anecdotes about people not visiting the US, but I don’t think it’s the explanation for the February 2026 job losses. This is accurate. This thread is people emoting. I get it, might as well let it out. Tourism being major part of the US GDP feels like countries whose GDP depends on tourism, projecting. I get that too, if that is the paradigm you live in every day, t…

Most US tourism is domestic, the effect of a 12% drop in international tourism arrivals is a rounding error even for the US tourism industry as a whole, much less the US economy overall (tourism is 3% of total, compared to ~10% in other major tourist destinations like France). Emoting and wishful thinking is exactly right, and I say that as a Canadian who is participating in this boycott. I'm not doing it to hurt the…

Tourism is a rounding error. Euros buying US arms are a rounding error. The benefits of a relationship with XYZ country is a rounding error. Any change we want to make to improve healthcare affordability is a rounding error. Everything around discussing improving housing affordability is a rounding error.

The US economy is driven in part by coal which employs 40,000 people. Rounding errors have impacts and are part of policy discussion all the time. It only gets shut down with 'rounding error' when it's referring to average people issues without clout.

Calling things rounding errors is the US equivalent speech as russian style apathy propaganda.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

s_dev wrote: post #330
fckgw wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part did they find "terrifying"?

ICE agents shooting US citizens, the mass shootings, the school shootings, the crime rate and fentanyl 'bend' posture that makes loads of poor people look like zombies, the aggressive police with guns who sometimes shoot people, burglaries that involve shootings. A lot of the problems in America seems to stem from guns and drugs but also policy. Even something as simple as crossing the road is unnecessarily complicat…

This sounds like someone who is on social media too much. The counterpart is an American in Paris convinced the banlieu are war zones.

The actual problems: we’ve made it impossible and insulting to get a tourist visa. And we’ve made pissing on our tourism partners our foreign policy.

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Post by jacquesm »

dotancohen wrote: post #381
jacquesm wrote: post #356

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No legal ones anyway.

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I'm not advocating for it, merely observing that that seems to be the way in which the USA prematurely gets rid of politicians that it does not like. It's revolting, the amount of violence in politics and >> what even banana republics get away with and that's on both sides of the aisle so I don't give a rats ass about which side you or anybody else is on.

FYI:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_...

Fix your systems, get rid of corruption and try - for once - to act like you mean it with all that talk of democracy because I'm not seeing it.

Meanwhile, on HN it is customary to try to not read the worst into a comment. Thank you.

Edit: oh, I see:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47270814

Pot, kettle, and so on, you seem to have no trouble with the USA murdering people.

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Post by Teever »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #297
dawnerd wrote: post #255

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I’ve been making an effort to visit Canada and Europe more instead of domestic US tourism. I used to go to Florida multiple times a year. Not anymore and you know, Canada is such a great place, am there right now on vacation.

So I live in Florida. People leave Canada this time a year because of the weather. If anything, go further south to Central America. Costa Rica and Panama are safe countries.

They leave it because they have probabled lived in a winter climate their entire lives and want a change / have gotten older and it's harder on their bodies.

If you've never experienced a real winter or done neat things like winter sports then visiting Canada in the winter is a great travel experience.

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