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I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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The solution is zk verifiable credentials, which would let folks prove their age without revealing their DOB (or anything else on their ID) to third parties.

This is possible today with complete privacy for people with biometric IDs and biometric passports (ie most passports, EU IDs, Aadhaar IDs, and more) using a service like self.xyz

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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>circumventing I would say the time to buy mesh networking equipment is now. But it's not like I'm capable of defending the transmitter. So when they come for the VPNs, the VPSs, and encryption, I guess I'll just be out of luck. (Out of luck = resigned to zero digital privacy. No matter I follow the law and “have nothing to hide” of course.) Perhaps people will pass flash drives like North Korea or Cuba?

I've seen a channel demonetised because they showed how to use MP3 player and it was deemed "spreading piracy" by Google. So I guess flash drives would get illegal as well...

Which channel and which MP3 player? Cause if you're talking about Limewire...

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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People around me (including engineers) all casually use things like Alexa, Google Home, Ring, Nest, Chrome, are always signed into Google, have all sorts of apps installed on their phones, and have no problems giving up their phone numbers to services for verification. It's crazy.

"Apps installed on their phones" "Use Chrome" "Crazy" Or, completely normal behavior. Are you suggesting that people should live in a shed in the woods like the Unabomber?

Gotta love the slippery slope argument

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Handing over a phone is certainly cheaper than paying for extra childcare, though most likely much less healthy for the child. I suppose idea is that Chinese women will stay at home with the child so the state doesn't have to provide any help?

More like the state (at least in places like USA) cracked down on children roaming freely so now people hide their kids inside playing video games so a Karen doesn't call CPS when mommy has other things to do all day besides play helicopter parent staring down at their kid all day.

This was done because of the "personal responsibility" crowd. Easier to blame the parents than make the communities safer.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Accept the cookies and flush them out every time you close the browser. I think it would be naive anyway to assume that clicking no on a cookie banner would achieve much for your privacy.

So-called "cookie banners" usually ask for your consent to much more than optional tracking cookies. By accepting you might be giving your permission to e.g. track you through various fingerprinting methods, build a profile and share it with advertising partners.

If they are aggressive enough to do fingerprinting, what makes you think they would abide to your choice? You do browser fingerprinting when you want to overcome people rejecting cookies.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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I can't imagine countries with such strict speech laws, for example, would be willing to build a system that is technically incapable of linking the person visiting a sire and the site requesting verification. This proposal may have been updated since I read it previously, so I could be wrong now, but it didn't read as a true zero-knowledge proof as key steps in the flow still required a level of trusting the governm…

Seems like anywhere in the EU, something draconian only needs to be popular for like 5 years for it to get implemented, for better or for worse. They don't have robust constitutions like the US.

Have you heard of the PATRIOT Act?

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Sadly, this still doesn't do anything to show me that I should opt out. I, as an individual, am not going to have any effect on a business if I opt out or not. No business decision is going to be made because I opt out. You might argue that it will matter if enough of us do it. Sure, that is true... but again, it won't matter if I do it or not. If N number of people opting out is enough to ruin the business model, th…

Your ad blocker probably has a setting for cookie blocking too

If not then install EFF Privacy Badger and Decentraleyes extensions.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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What I find extraordinary is y'alls bullshit theory that it is extraordinary to claim the CPS apparatus wasn't used more before when it didn't even exist until like ~1974, and before then as a much different process. As usual, just blame the victim, then complain they don't provide evidence knowing full damn well child and family welfare services complaints are sealed and hidden from public oversight. This is how vam…

> What I find extraordinary is y'alls bullshit theory that it is extraordinary to claim the CPS apparatus wasn't used more before when it didn't even exist until like ~1974, and before then as a much different process. You seem to have replied to the wrong post. > As usual, just blame the victim, then complain they don't provide evidence knowing full damn well child and family welfare services complaints are sealed a…

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Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

#429

I don't have a problem with verifying that I am an adult as long as I don't have to provide information that makes it easy to track down my identity. The UK government has approved 7 age verification methods. Not one of them meets that standard. That's not an accident. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/protecting-children/a...

It drives me a little bonkers that the UK already tried implementing age verification in 2019, with an approach that would have been easy to make verifiably anonymous: buying a single-use code from a newsagent who checks your age with ID [1], but can't connect the code to you specifically

That attempt officially failed because the UK failed to inform the EU about it, but I suspect it was also much harder to sell people on having to buy "porn passes" than on "just" kicking kids off phones

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/oct/16/uk-drops-pla...

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Yes, the Paradox of Voting is the exact same situation [1]. My decision to vote is not rational, but I know if all the rational people don't vote that is bad, and so I focus on the other parts of voting, like civic pride and the little sticker that says "I voted" > It may be you don't believe in democracy at all, and that's fair, but consumer action is the only way you can affect business decisions, by joining the de…

It is pretty paradoxical and got me thinking. I don't know how to measure the value of my vote. I feel like the immediate value is less than the effort, but on the other hand, I don't think it's so simple. As you said, if no "rational" people vote, that's catastrophic and so I'm helping to maintain a larger system. Maybe a culture. Movements can have collective power no individual can have, but they can't exist witho…

It's not paradoxical and the attitude expressed by GP that it's not "rational" is exactly the sort of thinking that leads to rationality getting a bad name.

Cooperation to the detriment of the individual in the animal world is exactly the same phenomenon in a much simpler system. That is widely and repeatedly evolved so we know for a fact that the game theory works out in a vacuum (ie without human cultural factors).

Any high trust cultural behavior is similar.

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