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Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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You can't, because the only actually autonomous cars right now are robotaxis.

Ah, and why so? Why are they introduced city by city?

To verify they can operate safely in any given city, and because you need operations staff and resources in every city for a robotaxi service.

Same reason Tesla is doing it that way.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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According to Elon, "sensor ambiguity" is a danger to the process [1], and therefore only a single type of sensor is allowed. (Conveniently ignores that there can be ambiguity/disagreement between two instances of the same type of sensor) The fact that people still trust him on literally anything boggles my mind. [1] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1959831831668228450

Personally as much as people like to dunk on Musk, he did build several successful companies in extremely challenging domains, and he probably listens to the world-leading domain experts in his employ. So while he might turn out to be wrong, I don't think his opininon is uninformed.

He's really excellent at faking it until he makes it. That, and sucking down government funds. SpaceX, Tesla, NeuraLink, and Boring Company all relied or rely on subsidies or government contracts.

An actual car company would not have the market cap of Tesla. It's all hopes and dreams, of which Elon apparently is an excellent purveyor.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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That video is 54 minutes long. Maybe, if it's the basis for your argument, you could post a summary?

Yeah, sort of. Autonomous cars will clog up existing cities by cruisnig around looking to pick up rides or deliver shit and mill around endlessly or occupy every piece of parking in prime real estate to make sure they are quickly available wherever demand is high (i.e. where people want to or have to be). In time they will phase out human driven cars which will lead to higher speed limits and more infrastrcuture that…

Meanwhile, in real life San Francisco, I much prefer being around Waymos as a pedestrian and cyclist than human drivers. While most human drivers are competent and considerate, a small percentage are not -- and given the number of encounters in a single trip, I have these dangerous interactions weekly.

Despite being a noticeable presence on the roads, Waymos have not contributed to congestion at all as far as I can tell.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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You are grossly misinformed. Waymo self driving never disengages the way Tesla FSD does. It is active at all times. In novel situations humans will provide instructions on what path to take but this is relatively infrequent. Tesla Robotaxis are so bad they need a safety driver in every single car at all times ready to take control when the car does something stupid. The small number of robotaxis without safety drives…

> Waymo self driving never disengages the way Tesla FSD does. It is active at all times Consumer version of FSD can park a car if a driver doesn't take contol[1]. Waymo seems to require a remote command to initiate parking instead of just standing there with hazard lights on[2]. > Tesla Robotaxis are so bad they need a safety driver in every single car at all times ready to take control Every single robotaxi in Austi…

"Every single robotaxi in Austin doesn't have a driver behind the wheel."

Almost ALL of them do. And NO waymo's need them.

https://electrek.co/2026/02/17/tesla-robotaxi-adds-5-more-cr...

Robotaxis is checkers compared to Waymo Chesss

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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I always see this argument but from experience I don't buy it. FSD and its cameras work fine driving with the sun directly in front of the car. When driving manually I need the visor so far down I can only see the bottom of the car in front of me. The cameras on Teslas only really lose visibility when dirty. Especially in winter when there's salt everywhere. Only the very latest models (2025+?) have decent self-clean…

"works fine" as in can follow a wide asphalt roads' white lines. That is absolutely trivial thing, Lego mind storms could follow a line just fine with a black/white sensor. This vision clearly doesn't scale to more complex scenarios.

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