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The risk of a hothouse Earth trajectory

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Re: The risk of a hothouse Earth trajectory

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> each and every one of us contributes to its intensification or mitigation through our decisions. I have to disagree here. This idea of a consumer-level personal responsibility for the fossil energy industry's externalized costs is a lot like the plastic producers shifting blame for waste by saying that it's the consumers' fault for not recycling. It's transparent blame-shifting. The fossil energy industry pulls the…

I never understood this. The companies sold you fossil fuel, you burnt it and got benefits out of it: transportation, energy, heating, constructions, fertilizers and food, etc. You want them to pay for the negative consequences of your fossil fuel consumption while you keep all the generated benefits?

> You want them to pay for the negative consequences of your fossil fuel consumption while you keep all the generated benefits?

The fossil fuel companies will not pay, they'll pass on the costs to consumers:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_price

Even Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker thought this was a good idea:

* https://clcouncil.org/economists-statement/

Heck, even Milton Friedman:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssK_OrGrBG0

Re: The risk of a hothouse Earth trajectory

#422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> each and every one of us contributes to its intensification or mitigation through our decisions. I have to disagree here. This idea of a consumer-level personal responsibility for the fossil energy industry's externalized costs is a lot like the plastic producers shifting blame for waste by saying that it's the consumers' fault for not recycling. It's transparent blame-shifting. The fossil energy industry pulls the…

I never understood this. The companies sold you fossil fuel, you burnt it and got benefits out of it: transportation, energy, heating, constructions, fertilizers and food, etc. You want them to pay for the negative consequences of your fossil fuel consumption while you keep all the generated benefits?

People want to place the blame on someone else and they want to be lied to.
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