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“Holy tautology Batman.” What is your point? If you’re trying to say that they should have kept their opinion to themselves, why don’t you do the same? Edit: tone down the snark
> What is your point? Holy Spiderman what is your point? That if someone says something dumb I can never challenge them nor ask them to substantiate/commit? > tone down the snark It's amazing to me that the neutral observation "thinking happens in your head" is snarky. Have you ever heard the phrase "tone police"?
OpenClaw is changing my life
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Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#422There's an odd trend with these sorts of posts where the author claims to have had some transformative change in their workflow brought upon by LLM coding tools, but also seemingly has nothing to show for it. To me, using the most recent ChatGPT Codex (5.3 on "Extra High" reasoning), it's incredibly obvious that while these tools are surprisingly good at doing repetitive or locally-scoped tasks, they immediately fall…
I KNOW a common issue people run into is they forget to handle rate limits, but I also know more JavaScript than Python and have limited time, so before I'd write:
``` # NOTE: Make sure to handle the rate limit! This is just an example. See example.com/docs/javascript/rate-limit-example for a js example doing this. ```
Unsurprisingly, more than half of customers would just ignore the comment, forget to handle the rate limit, and then write in a few months later. With Claude, I just write "Create a customer demo in Python that handles rate limits. Use example.com/docs/javascript/rate-limit-example as a reference," and it gets me 95% of the way there.
There are probably 100 other small examples like this where I had the "vibe" to know where the customer might trip over, but not the time to plug up all the little documentation example holes myself. Ideally, yes, hiring a full-time person to handle plugging up these holes would be great, but if you're resource constrained paying Anthropic for tokens is a much faster/cheaper solution in the short term.
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#423Earlier quoted context omitted.
I often ask for big things. For example I'm working on some virtualization things where I want a machine to be provisioned with a few options of linux distros and BSDs. In one prompt I asked for this list to be provisioned so a certain test of ssh would complete, it worked on it for several hours and now we're doing the code review loop. At first it gave up on the BSDs and I had to poke it to actually finish with an…
ah, so cool. Yeah that is definitely bigger than what I ask for. I'd say the bigger risk I'm dealing with right now is that while it passes all my very strict linting and static analysis toolsets, I neglected to put detailed layered-architecture guidelines in place, so my code files are approaching several hundred lines now. I don't actually know if the "most efficient file size" for an agent is the same as for a hum…
Tell it to analyze your architecture, security, documentation, etc. etc. etc. Install claude to do review on github pull requests and prompt it to review each one with all of these things.
Just keep expanding your imagination about what you can ask it to do, think of it more like designing an organization and pinning down the important things and providing code review and guard rails where it needs it and letting it work where it doesn't.
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#424There's an odd trend with these sorts of posts where the author claims to have had some transformative change in their workflow brought upon by LLM coding tools, but also seemingly has nothing to show for it. To me, using the most recent ChatGPT Codex (5.3 on "Extra High" reasoning), it's incredibly obvious that while these tools are surprisingly good at doing repetitive or locally-scoped tasks, they immediately fall…
But the reason you don’t see a flood of great products is that the managerial layer has no idea what to do with massively increased productivity (velocity). Ask even a Google what they’d do with doubly effective engineers and the standard answer is to lay half of them off.
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#425Earlier quoted context omitted.
I often ask for big things. For example I'm working on some virtualization things where I want a machine to be provisioned with a few options of linux distros and BSDs. In one prompt I asked for this list to be provisioned so a certain test of ssh would complete, it worked on it for several hours and now we're doing the code review loop. At first it gave up on the BSDs and I had to poke it to actually finish with an…
The thing I've learned is that it doesn't do well at the big things (yet). I have to break large tasks into smaller tasks, and limit the context and scope. This is the thing that both Superpowers and Ralph [0] do well when they're orchestrating; the plans are broken down enough so that the actual coding agent instance doesn't get overwhelmed and lost. It'll be interesting to see what Claude Code's new 1m token limit…
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#426There's an odd trend with these sorts of posts where the author claims to have had some transformative change in their workflow brought upon by LLM coding tools, but also seemingly has nothing to show for it. To me, using the most recent ChatGPT Codex (5.3 on "Extra High" reasoning), it's incredibly obvious that while these tools are surprisingly good at doing repetitive or locally-scoped tasks, they immediately fall…
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#427Once we get to a spot where the AI can check its work and iterate, the loop is closed. But we are a long way off from that atm. Even for the web. I mean, have you tried the Playwright MCP server? Aside from being the slowest tool calls I have ever seen, the agent struggles mightily to figure out the simplest of navigation and interaction.
Yes yes Unit tests, but functional is the be all end all and until it can iterate and create its own functional test suite, I just don’t get it.
What am I missing?
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
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I’m trying to pivot my career from web/business app dev entirely into embedded, despite the steep learning curve, many new frameworks and tool chains, because I now have a full-time infinitely patient tutor, and I dare say it’s off to a pretty good start so far.
If you want to get into embedded you’d be better suited learning how to use an o-scope, a meter, and asm/c. If you’re using any sort of hardware that isn’t “mainstream” you’ll be pretty bummed at the results from an LLM.
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#429- Because the seasoned developers have something entirely different to say https://www.xda-developers.com/please-stop-using-openclaw/
- Also please stop spamming HN with this stuff
Re: OpenClaw is changing my life
#430Besides that blog post obviously being written by AI, can someone here confirm how credible the hype about openclaw is? I'm already very proficient at using Claude Code anywhere, so what would i gain really with openclaw?
You can just hook up Claude Code to a Telegram bot and get basically the same result in 50 lines of code. https://github.com/a-n-d-a-i/ULTRON Well, it's a work in progress, but I have self-upgrading and self-restarting working, and it's already more reliable than Claw ;) I used the Claude Code SDK (Agents SDK) originally, but then realized I can get the same result by just calling `claude -p the_telegram_message` The…
Well, that and skills to download more skills. It’s a lot faster and easier to extend OC than CC via prompts. It also has cron and other take-initiative features.
I had it hack up a poller for new Gitea notifications (for @ mentions and the like) that wakes up the main bot when something happens, so I have it interacting with a self hosted Gitea. There wasn’t even a Gitea skill for it, it just constructs API requests “manually” each time it needs to do something on it. I guess it knows the Gitea API already. It knew how to make a launchd plist and keep the poller running, without me asking it to do that. It’s a little more oriented toward getting things going and running than CC, which mostly just wants to make commits.