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Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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hmm Tesla shipped millions of cars SpaceX launches 90% of space payloads, Starlink is working well. Thats hard to categorize as never delivered on any of his projects

The projects promised to be life altering for all mankind, they ended up being not even life altering for super rich Americans considering that Teslas are just EVs which without FSD are just regular cars with a different propellent that were made for political purposes and virtue signaling The EV revolution has always been something almost dystopic : Trillions of dollars spent in order to not have the slightest amoun…

well Tesla did jump start the EV revolution not life altering but is pretty important. IF SpaceX gets spaceship right that will be a huge leap forward.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Why? Let it fail. Bring back NASA.

What do you mean "let it fail?" SpaceX has the most profitable launch system in the world and now operates >50% of all satellites in orbit. They aren't exactly in need of a bailout.

So proof of profitability is that they can shoot their own satellites into orbit?

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

In fairness, solar cells can be about 5x more efficient in space (irradiance, uptime).

The quoted "1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally" is the peak output, not the average output. They're only about 20% higher peak output in space… well, if you can keep them cool at least.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Merging SpaceX with a public company like Tesla would create a lot of issues for the classified projects SpaceX does.

I imagine those are surmountable challenges. Boeing somehow manages. But more likely that merger would consist of SpaceX acquiring Tesla and taking it private

There is no way Elon could raise the 1.4 trillion to take Tesla private

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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In fairness, solar cells can be about 5x more efficient in space (irradiance, uptime).

It is more than 5x less expensive to get surface area on earth’s surface.

Right now it is.

However, the amount of available land is fixed and the demand for its use is growing. Solar isn't the only buyer in this real estate market.

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Related: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission [1]. Blue Origin could snatch SpaceX's Starship lander contract. This looks increasingly a good idea. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/science/nasa-spacex-moon-land...

> This looks increasingly a good idea. Why?

The reason for the entire moon mission is national prestige.

Is financial fraud consistent with our national prestige?

There are better companies.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Related: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission [1]. Blue Origin could snatch SpaceX's Starship lander contract. This looks increasingly a good idea. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/science/nasa-spacex-moon-land...

Sean Duffy is no longer acting administrator of NASA. This proposal was apparently part of a bid to get the support of a coalition of old-space companies and new-space non-SpaceX companies. As part of that strategy he apparently leaked Isaacman's Project Athena document and was backgrounding that he was a SpaceX plant.

But, Isaacman is administrator now, and whatever you think about Isaacman and his relationship to SpaceX, I don't think there's much merit in thinking one of Duffy's half thought out plans is likely to be carried out.

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