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Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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I can. You can. Spotify users though? Too dumb

Spotify allows you to download songs for offline (requiring a phone home once a month) and play local files. I'm far from a Spotify advocate but no need to be inflammatory and misinformed.

Worth adding this option is available for premium accounts only.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Yes, parental controls are probably for corporations. So they can say they did something and it's not their fault.

I wonder if kids aren't safer in online spaces where there's very little expectation that the person on the other end is a child. Like here.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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I'm stuck with my son not able to play minecraft from his nintendo account anymore though it used to work. I'm just getting an unhelpful error message and all permissions should be enough. Parental control is a joke. Deezer has kids accounts but you can just switch to another account. Spotify kids was a joke when I used it, poor discoverability, poor cataloge specifically if you care about childrens audio books. Goog…

Try the XBox app on your phone, I managed to find settings there once that unlocked Minecraft. I'd like a flag for messaging apps called "turn off images and video". Sure, my kid might get called nasty names in plain text, but would not get beheading or bestiality videos or underage schoolmate pics.

Thanks for the hint, but wasn't able to make it work yet.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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I disagree. I think it is an “accident” that stems from organizations rather than anything sinister. Companies generally want good parental controls, but let’s face it, it’s not the cash cow or particularly interesting. This leads to understaffed teams of b-list developers with high churn, hence the overly confusing and half-baked features.

It's nearly impossible to block YouTube on a smart TV without third party apps, even worse on non-android ones. And the app is not uninstallable. I don't think this is b-tier devs, feels like intentionall neglect.

LG let's me put a PIN on apps like YouTube, so the kids can't watch it alone.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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I see folks saying no access to phones until 16, and others arguing how that will absolutely crush a kid's ability to do stuff socially. Why not just have a 'home' phone? you can use the phone in shared spaces at home, but cannot take it into your room or go to school with it.

We are a “low screen” homeschooling family. We have a babysitting phone for my daughters to take to babysitting jobs and a landline. At our local pool in the summer, my kids meet neighborhood kids, exchange numbers, but my kids say, “it’s a landline, no texting.” The response: “You just have a landline?!? You can’t text?!?” in a tone of disgust. Every time. Fortunately, we have a community of homeschooling & religious community friends who are raising their kids similarly. But every time a kid’s friend gets a cellphone, texting becomes the medium of socialization, and they drop us. My kids will be the 1% of their generation who can talk on the phone.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Do you have kids? I'm guessing you don't, because the answer is pretty obvious to those of us who do - the vast majority of parents seem to give not one single fuck about what their kids do with technology. I've known families who have a cell phone - a dedicated device - for their four year old . My armchair diagnosis is that parents who are just a little bit older than me (I'm 34) and especially parents who didn't g…

There is enough general public concern about minors having access to online pornography that jurisdictions all over the world are passing age restrictions but I think the HN discussion is one sided. That is, HN users see the costs, the difficulty, the privacy concerns, etc. But they're also dismissive of the harm, which in terms of the young Gen Z men that I know personally is real. I can't attribute online pornograp…

Might this be an example of healthy narcissism? https://theonion.com/monk-gloats-over-yoga-championship-1819...

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Spotify allows you to download songs for offline (requiring a phone home once a month) and play local files. I'm far from a Spotify advocate but no need to be inflammatory and misinformed.

Worth adding this option is available for premium accounts only.

Of course. It's available for customers, not products.

Because products need to see ads, check in and report usage and ad consumption.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Hardly a comment worth singing up to HN to post.

All of your comments are gold and worth signing up to post. You’re an intellectual no one can touch. Oooh look at you and your comment worthiness.

Womp womp

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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> Parents did not have to hover over everything their child did. Was it perfect, of course not, but it worked fairly well and didn't require constant monitoring. Except kids from families without respectable parents would always be the ones to find access to alcohol, cigarettes, and porn. There were always a few kids in every class that had an older brother, uncle, or friend who would give them access to stuff they s…

Sure the old social there was the kid with porn mags and cigs in his treehouse, but you were never at his house 24/7 and that limited exposure almost inoculated against long term addictions and you experienced it with peer input. Parents would eventually isolate you from those bad elements due to neighbors gossiping and the like. The new social is your neighbors don’t even know you have kids much less who they are ta…

> Parents would eventually isolate you from those bad elements due to neighbors gossiping and the like.

That’s my point. Some Parents now expect technology to do their parenting for them in ways they were expecting to do themselves previously.

> I do not have kids,

I do have kids. So my opinions are based on what I’ve personally seen work with my kinds and my peers.

Parental controls shouldn’t be seen as a way to absolve the parents of their responsibility to monitor what their kids consume.

Yeah there will be occasions when things slip through, but that’s always been a risk even before smartphones and the web. What matters is you’re there, as a parent, to ensure leaks are not tidal waves, and to ensure children develop responsible use of technology.

This has always been something parents have had to manage. Both in the 80s and equally so now. Blaming technology is just another way of saying “I’m too lazy to keep tabs on my children”

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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> When it happens only a few times, it might be neglect. This is absolutely by design. Not sure if I want to call it by design. It is not a dark pattern, it is just "what is the minimum we can do to sell this without doing the curation work?"

I’m not sure why some are struggling to understand this. A single "godmode" checkbox would only be possible if every element, the marketplace, the hardware, and the payment rails, were inside one ecosystem. The Switch is Nintendo, Minecraft is Microsoft, the credit card is Visa, and so on. There are simply too many moving parts, making a single killswitch nearly impossible to orchestrate.

Of course, making one single switch for everything in that complex system is absurd. Which is why this is something no one is talking about here.

We are only talking about the architecture, setup, and options for each particular game.

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