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Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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These people could have bought a dirt bike or mountain bike and had the time of their life. I don't get it.

I think I’d take directing big things at Google over riding a dirt bike… I’m not actually sure what you don’t get. I’m all for not living a lower level grind and riding a dirt bike. Most jobs simply aren’t interesting.

Regretting not being able to create more shareholder value on your deathbed.

So very sad.

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I don't know if it is build environment or cultural thing. In US showing up at friends, or neighbors unannounced and spend hour or two would be very odd if not downright impolite. But in India it is something everyone would do or at least used to do a 15-20 yrs back when I was there. One simple reason I think is overall US is very rich so people just can have anything they need on their own and sharing small things w…

It's a little of both but the built environment is the primary issue. We have neighbors - sometimes we need someone to grab a package, or we make too much food and we share, &c. or we run into each other walking to a restaurant or through the park. But this isn't the norm. We live in a neighborhood built before the introduction of cars, so homes are built a little bit closer together, but not too close, and we have m…

I don’t think the built environment is that determinative. I live in a car-dependent suburb. Walk Score 2.

My neighbor knows the whole street. She knows the garbage men. It’s because she wants to. When I run into her outside, she chats. She walks her dog and chats with dog owners and anyone else she sees.

Easy relationships are available at the grocery store, post office, etc. I’ve been seeing some of the same people working at Costco for years. I don’t know them. It’s not the built environment. I’d need to take effort to build a relationship with them. My neighbor would. I’m simply not so inclined.

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Sergey's challenge looks like is not in retiring early or with non-work. We had a high performing co-worker who was scared witless after a lay-off episode and this was not because he was worried about lacking money or loss of prestige., but because he could not come to terms with the simple fact of facing the 9 am on a Monday morning with absolutely no expectations. It freaked so much to not feel the hustle and the a…

I took a career break and was weirded out by the question of "how do I introduce myself?". So used to saying "Hi, I'm Marcus, I'm IT Director of " that suddenly having nothing to say there was strange. When people asked "what do you do?" I had no good answer, and that felt like I had no good identity. I guess for Sergey Brin it's a little different, he will always be "Founder of Google" even if he leaves Google. But…

After a decade, "founder of X that I no longer work at" is considered a lame answer. People want to know what you are doing now, not your highest claim to status of your entire life.

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From observing my parents and other elders, it isn't "work" in the job sense that we all need. It is feeling needed by others. This can be accomplished by being an active grandparent, charity(active volunteering not just allocating money), open-source contribution, mentoring. It can be something other than a job. It just can't be done alone. We are social creatures and need to be needed by each other. Luckily there a…

>> We are social creatures and need to be needed by each other.

I think this was illustrated well in the movie I Am Legend with Will Smith. He creates artificial situations where he is interacting with mannequins in order to fulfill this very basic need.

Its interesting that this part of the movie was missed by a lot of friends and family until I pointed it out to them.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Sergey's challenge looks like is not in retiring early or with non-work. We had a high performing co-worker who was scared witless after a lay-off episode and this was not because he was worried about lacking money or loss of prestige., but because he could not come to terms with the simple fact of facing the 9 am on a Monday morning with absolutely no expectations. It freaked so much to not feel the hustle and the a…

Human beings tend to enjoy patterns. Being pushed out of a pattern engages a lot of survival instincts.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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I totally understand. I "retired" last summer, but I continue to work about 50%, mostly at a new place that needs my help. I like what I do. Anyway, gaming/reading/etc. are fine and dandy, but not something I want to do 24/7. The only thing I don't quite get about Brin is going back to Google. Since he doesn't need the money, why not support open source AI projects?

Because in google he can be a “dictator”, while he wouldn’t be in open source.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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I think being the founder of Google gives him more political capital at Google than anything on paper. As a controlling member of the board there's a variety of things he can do with that hammer, but just simply being who he is, not even just on the org chart, has got to be worth way more.

The ghost of Steve Jobs would like a word with you.

Are you referring to his firing in the 80s? That was because he was supposedly a jerk at the time and no one wanted to deal with him.

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If I became financially independent tomorrow I'd go straight to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle to help build that. I don't think we've evolved to be healthy and idle. In retirement you can choose what to do, and volunteering on some nerdy construction project sounds amazing.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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If I became financially independent tomorrow I'd go straight to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle to help build that. I don't think we've evolved to be healthy and idle. In retirement you can choose what to do, and volunteering on some nerdy construction project sounds amazing.

Thanks for sharing this link! I'd never heard of it before, and it is fascinating.
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