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Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Post by LogicFailsMe »

bogzz wrote: post #418
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you really want to experience the struggles and persecution of an artist, you should empty your bank account and find a life partner to support you while you struggle with your angst and inner trauma that are the source of your creativity. But, to be fair, complaining about AI art is a great start down that path!

Logic might fail you, but snark is Ol' Faithful it seems.

How else would you address the incessant ramblings of people who figuratively curse the sunset daily? After AI art has been integrated into the already existing suite of digital art applications (which themselves were once not considered art), whatever shall you complain about next?

Now if you wanted to define art to require 100% bodily fluids and solids 100% handcrafted to be the only real art, now that I'd understand.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Post by CuriouslyC »

xgulfie wrote: post #409
api wrote: post #376

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In previous eras there were many purists who considered photography not-art, sequencer and synthesizer made music not-music, other forms of (non-AI) digital art less legitimate than their more manual classical counterparts, etc. This is the same discourse all over again. Is electronic music where the artist composes it on a screen and then hits 'play' music? I think it is, of course, but I have had experiences where…

> AI slop is to AI art what point and shoot amateur photography is to artistic photography. Sorry... It's all slop buddy. The medium is the message, and genAI's message is "I want it cheap and with low effort, and I don't care too much about how it looks"

What a barren viewpoint.

The logical implication of your view is that if someone or something has a halo, they can shit in your mouth and it's "good." The medium is the message, after all.

This is the same pretentious art bullshit that regular people fucking hate, just repackaged to take advantage of public rage at tech bro billionaires.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Post by oblio »

hylaride wrote: post #361
andy99 wrote: post #290

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I’m not saying society will remodel, I’m saying the typical white collar job is already mostly unnecessary busywork anyway, so automating part of that doesn’t really affect the reasons that job exists.

Except people now have an excuse to replace those workers, whereas before management didn't know any better (or worse were not willing to risk their necks). The funny/scary part is that people are going to try really hard to replace certain jobs with AI because they believe in the hype and not because AI may actually be good at it. The law industry (in the US anyways) spends a massive amount of time combing through c…

Do you assume that the average HN commenter hasn't heard of the Luddites?

Go read what happened to them and their story. They were basically right.

Also, why do you think I mentioned those exact deindustrialization examples?

Your comment is the exact type of comment that I was aiming at.

Champagne/caviar socialist. Or I guess champagne capitalist in this case.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Post by yunwal »

xgulfie wrote: post #409
api wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In previous eras there were many purists who considered photography not-art, sequencer and synthesizer made music not-music, other forms of (non-AI) digital art less legitimate than their more manual classical counterparts, etc. This is the same discourse all over again. Is electronic music where the artist composes it on a screen and then hits 'play' music? I think it is, of course, but I have had experiences where…

> AI slop is to AI art what point and shoot amateur photography is to artistic photography. Sorry... It's all slop buddy. The medium is the message, and genAI's message is "I want it cheap and with low effort, and I don't care too much about how it looks"

For fun I decided to try out the find and replace on this comment

> Sorry... It's all slop buddy. The medium is the message, and photography's message is "I want it cheap and with low effort, and I don't care too much about how it looks"

Hmm... it seems like you have failed to actually make an argument here

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Post by yunwal »

bogzz wrote: post #406
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #402

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Defining art in this way is like defining intelligence as the possession of a degree from Stanford. It's just branding. Art shouldn't make you feel comfortable and safe. It should provoke you and in this sense AI art is doing the job better than traditional art at the moment here. Other than the technological aspect, there's nothing new under the sun here. And at its very worst, AI art is just Andy Warhol at hypersca…

I Ghiblified a photo of my dog when chatgpt 4 came out. I was utterly horrified by the results. It's exciting being able to say that I am an artist, I always wondered what my life would have been had I gone into the arts, and now I can experience it! Thank you techmology.

what you did was not even close to an attempt at making good art.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Post by kasabali »

walterbell wrote: post #151
l9o wrote: post #135

It feels like a weird tension: we worry about AI alignment but also want everyone to have unrestricted local AI hardware. Local compute means no guardrails, fine-tune for whatever you want. Maybe the market pricing people out is accidentally doing what regulation couldn't? Concentrating AI where there's at least some oversight and accountability. Not sure if that's good or bad to be honest.

> market pricing people out For now. Chinese supply chains include DRAM from CXMT (sanctioned) and NAND from YMTC (not sanctioned, holds patents on 3D stacking that have been licensed by Korean memory manufacturers).

They may not be sanctioned for selling, but they're sanctioned because they can't buy modern fab machinery.

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Post by llmslave2 »

maeln wrote: post #183
llmslave2 wrote: post #154

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This is a common sentiment but it doesn't make any sense. Voting for the wrong politician is worse than not voting at all, so why is it seen as some moral necessity for everyone to vote? If someone doesn't have enough political knowledge to vote correctly, perhaps they shouldn't vote.

Someone, I can't remember who, explained it better than me, but the gist of it is by not voting, you are effectively checking yourself out of politician consideration. If we see politician as just a machine who's only job is to get elected, they have to get as many votes as possible. Pandering to the individual is unrealistic, so you usually target groups of people who share some common interest. As your aim is to ge…

I won't dispute there can be utility in voting, I just disagree with the moralizing.

In fact I think what you said about the older demographics being pandered to by politicians is a great point. Their voting patterns are probably having a net negative impact on society and really they should vote less. But they don't, and so politicians pander to them.

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Post by irishcoffee »

sdwr wrote: post #420
xgulfie wrote: post #409

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> AI slop is to AI art what point and shoot amateur photography is to artistic photography. Sorry... It's all slop buddy. The medium is the message, and genAI's message is "I want it cheap and with low effort, and I don't care too much about how it looks"

So art is just a status signifier? "This is hard to make so I must be really special"?

Uh, yes?

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Post by [deleted] »

smashem wrote: post #396
drBonkers wrote: post #392

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> it's probably time to relearn those (the upper classes never stopped using them) Can you tell me more about these? I’m actively trying to find ways to cultivate my community.

Face-to-face social gatherings - parties, dinners, clubs, meetups Membership organizations - country clubs, professional associations, alumni networks, charitable boards Personal introductions and referrals - being introduced through mutual acquaintances Cultural and civic participation - involvement in local institutions, community organizations, religious groups

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