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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by squigz »

reassess_blind wrote: post #405
userbinator wrote: post #356

Music files (releasing in order of popularity) Increasing or decreasing? IMHO increasing would make more sense, as the most popular music is already mirrored in countless other places. It's the rare stuff that is most in need of preservation. I wonder how much of the content there is AI-generated. Honestly, even as someone who was initially skeptical, I've found some of it to be rather good --- not knowing that it wa…

Same model and same prompt won’t necessarily create the same result, unless I misunderstand how these audio models work.

It's possible to generate the same images and text from LMs by tweaking the settings, right? Are audio models different?

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by jotaen »

klabb3 wrote: post #39
basisword wrote: post #6

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The people I know who go through the trouble of pirating and downloading vast libraries of music are all musicians themselves, or at the very least total music nerds. They don’t want to lose access to their stuff, plus if they ever need to import audio into a DAW, DRM is a no-go. They are the same people who spend large amounts of money on vinyls, and support smaller independent artists through concerts, merch and (b…

> piracy is often the only option to ”own” any media at all.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding something here, but I find that nowadays the process of buying high-quality, DRM-free MP3 music is as simple and straightforward as it can be: you purchase the files (on Bandcamp, Amazon, Apple Music, etc.), download them legally, and then physically own them forever.

By the way, when purchasing through Bandcamp, 80+% goes to the artist (https://bandcamp.com/fair_trade_music_policy). So not only do you own the music, but you also make sure the artist is properly paid for their work.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by 0x3f »

lurk2 wrote: post #365
toomuchtodo wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cost recovery isn’t profit. Copyright is just a shared delusion, like most laws. They’re just bits on a disk we’re told are special for ~100 years (or whatever the copyright lockup length is in your jurisdiction), after which they’re no longer special (having entered the public domain). I think what is more ironic is we somehow were comfortable being collectively conditioned (manufactured consent?) with the idea that…

> that to evade such insanity is wrong in some way. There’s a commons problem at play here. Most habitual pirates couldn’t pay for what they are pirating even if they wanted to, so restricting their access just makes the world worse-off; but who is going to finance the creation of new content if everything is just reliant on completely optional donations? The 100 year period is absurd and does nothing to incentivize…

> Most habitual pirates couldn’t pay for what they are pirating

Seems questionable. You can cover almost everything with a handful of monthly subscriptions these days. In fact I often pirate things that I otherwise have access to via e.g. Amazon Prime.

> but who is going to finance the creation of new content if everything is just reliant on completely optional donations?

Well this is an appeal to consequences, right? It's probably true that increased protectable output is a positive of IP law, but that doesn't mean it's an optimal overall state, given the (massive) negatives. It's a local maxima, or so I would argue.

Plus it's a bit of a strange argument. It seems to claim that we must protect Disney from e.g. 'knock offs', and somehow if we didn't, nobody would be motivated to create things. But then who would be making the knock-offs and what would be motivating them?

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Post by Stagnant »

linhns wrote: post #378

Unlike books, which are massively overpriced, this will hurt artists a lot as they need the fees paid by Spotify to make ends meet.

I don't think so. Streaming services are used for convenience. Torrenting and managing music at this scale is inconvenient.

Distributing these huge torrents is the perfect way to avoid any real damage to artists while being invaluable to preservation of culture.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by paddim8 »

komali2 wrote: post #349
WD-42 wrote: post #16

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Nobody is gonna download a 300TB torrent just to get the latest Taylor Swift album. There are much easier avenues than that. What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. Buy CDs. Use Bandcamp.

> What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. I'm pretty sure it's waaaay lower than that per 1000 streams.

It's not. What makes you say this?

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by Kerollmops »

So nice! That's an excellent extract and looks useful for benchmarking Meilisearch. I'll probably spend my Christmas holidays importing the tracks, albums, and artists into Meilisearch, while my CEO builds a beautiful front-end for it. I'll probably replace [the current music search demo](https://music.meilisearch.com) we have with this much higher-quality dataset!

That would also be a good fit for [the new delta-encoded posting lists I am working on](https://github.com/meilisearch/meilisearch/pull/5985). Let's see how good it can get. My early benchmarks showed a 50% reduction in disk usage.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by hermanzegerman »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #266
hermanzegerman wrote: post #174

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Spotify fucks over most artists anyway, so who cares?

Spotify pays the rightsholders. What are they supposed to do about the shitty contracts that the artists signs with the labels?

They don't pay any artist who has less than 1000/Streams per Song per Year.

They also deliberately choose a model which favours big artists, where they split the compensation just by the plays instead of User Centric Payments.

Either way I don't feel bad about the Labels or Spotify.

If I want to support an artist I buy their music, go to a concert or buy merch.

I've had a Spotify Subscription, but that got cancelled as I didn't agree to the recent Price Hike, as I wasn't interested in paying for AudioBooks I don't care about.

Now I'm rolling with YouTubeMusic and I am looking for a less shitty alternative

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by grumbelbart »

croemer wrote: post #395
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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by yungwarlock »

coppsilgold wrote: post #309
firefax wrote: post #195

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>I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. What's stopping someone from sticking a microphone next to their speaker? Slow, but effective.

Even if you plug the audio output into the input you would still be taking a quality loss by passing the audio through a DAC and then an ADC. Maybe if the quality of your hardware is good enough it wouldn't matter, but then you would be limited to only ripping 24 hours of audio per day...

Bro. Who cares. Ive got bunch of songs like this. The loss makes it more nostalgic
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