Why doesn't OpenAI include comparisons to other models anymore?
Sam Altman posted with a comparison to Gemini 3 and Opus 4.5
GPT-5.2
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Re: GPT-5.2
#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was listening to a podcast about people becoming obsessed and "in love" with an LLM like ChatGPT. Spouses were interviewed describing how mentally damaging it is to their partner and how their marriage/relationship is seriously at risk because of it. I couldn't believe no one has told these people to just goto the LLM and reset the context, that reverts the LLM back to a complete stranger. Granted that would be pre…
that's not quite what parent was talking about, which is — don't just use one giant long conversation. resetting "memories" is a totally different thing (which still might be valuable to do occasionally, if they still let you)
Actually, it's kind of the same. LLMs don't have a "new memory" system. They're like the guy from Memento. Context memory and long term from the training data. Can't make new memories from the context though.
(Not addressed to parent comment, but the inevitable others: Yes, this is an analogy, I don't need to hear another halfwit lecture on how LLMs don't really think or have memories. Thank you.)
Re: GPT-5.2
#423I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…
That's hilarious and right on brand for Google that they spend millions developing cutting-edge technology and fumble the ball making a chat app.
Re: GPT-5.2
#424$168.00 / 1M ouput tokens is hilarious for their "Pro". Can't wait to here all the bitching from orgs next month. Literally the dumbest product of all time. Do you people seriously pay for this?
Re: GPT-5.2
#425Wow, there's a lot going on with this pelican riding a bicycle: https://gist.github.com/simonw/c31d7afc95fe6b40506a9562b5e83...
What is good at SVG design?
Re: GPT-5.2
#426I gave up my OpenAI subscription a few days ago in favor of Claude. My quality of life (and quality of results) has gone up substantially. Several of our tools at work have GPT-5x as their backend model, and it is incredible how frustrating they are to use, how predictable their AI-isms are, and how inconsistent their output is. OpenAI is going to have to do a lot more than an incremental update to convince me they h…
You are absolutely right!
Someone didn't think so, lol. I debated not saying anything because the AI partisans are just so awful.
Re: GPT-5.2
#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
that's not quite what parent was talking about, which is — don't just use one giant long conversation. resetting "memories" is a totally different thing (which still might be valuable to do occasionally, if they still let you)
Actually, it's kind of the same. LLMs don't have a "new memory" system. They're like the guy from Memento. Context memory and long term from the training data. Can't make new memories from the context though. (Not addressed to parent comment, but the inevitable others: Yes, this is an analogy, I don't need to hear another halfwit lecture on how LLMs don't really think or have memories. Thank you.)
Context memory arguably is new memory, but because we abused the metaphor of “learning” rather than something more like shaping inborn instinct for trained model weights, we have no fitting metaphor what happens during the “lifetime” of the interaction with a model via its context window as formation of skills/memories.
Re: GPT-5.2
#428Earlier quoted context omitted.
I consistently have exactly the opposite experience. ChatGPT seems extremely willing to do a huge number of searches, think about them, and then kick off more searches after that thinking, think about it, etc., etc. whereas it seems like Gemini is extremely reluctant to do more than a couple of searches. ChatGPT also is willing to open up PDFs, screenshot them, OCR them and use that as input, whereas Gemini just igno…
I will say that it is wild, if not somewhat problematic that two users have such disparate views of seemingly the same product. I say that, but then I remember my own experience just from few days ago. I don't pay for gemini, but I have paid chatgpt sub. I tested both for the same product with seemingly same prompt and subbed chatgpt subjectively beat gemini in terms of scope, options and links with current decent de…
Gemini has tons of people using it free via aistudio
I can't help but feel that google gives free requests the absolute lowest priority, greatest quantization, cheapest thinking budget, etc.
I pay for gemini and chatGPT and have been pretty hooked on Gemini 3 since launch.
Re: GPT-5.2
#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you uploading PDFs that already have a text layer? I don't currently subscribe to Gemini but on A.I. Studio's free offering when I upload a non OCR PDF of around 20 pages the software environment's OCR feeds it to the model with greater accuracy than I've seen from any other source.
I’m not uploading PDFs at all. I’m talking about PDFs it finds while searching than it extracts data from for the conversation.
I'm surprised to hear anyone finds these models trustworthy for research.
Just today I asked Claude what year over year inflation was and it gave me 2023 to 2024.
I also thought some sites ban A.I. crawling so if they have the best source on a topic, you won't get it.
Re: GPT-5.2
#430I suppose this is as good a place as any to mention this. I've now met two different devs who complained about the weird responses from their LLM of choice, and it turned out they were using a single session for everything. From recipes for the night, presents for the wife and then into programming issues the next day. Don't do that. The whole context is sent on queries to the LLM, so start a new chat for each topic.…
Problem is that by default ChatGPT has the “Reference chat history” option enabled in the Memory options. This causes any previous conversation to leak into the current one. Just creating a new conversation is not enough, you also need to disable that option.
That seems like a terrible default. Unless they have a weighting system for different parts of context?