Doesn't torbrowser use firefox? I wonder how a journalist could trust it if there's some obscure llm/ai involved?
I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
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#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
That geographic concentration is a real thing. I think part of the Mozilla problem is that they are based in San Francisco which puts them in touch with people from Facebook and Google and OpenAI every frickin' day and they are just so seeped in the FOMO Dilemma [1] that they can't hear the objection to NFT and AI features that users, particularly Firefox users, hate. [2] I'd really like to see Mozilla move anywhere…
My two cents is Mozilla should be in a European tech hub, with some component of their funding coming from the EU, where the EU's belief in regulation and nation state efforts to protect humans exceeds that of the US.
It's not a popular opinion but if I was the EU I would do the following:
(1) Fully fund Firefox or an alternative browser (with a 100% open source commitment and verifiable builds so we know the people who get ideas like chatcontrol can't slip something bad in)
(2) Pass a law to the effect: "Violate DNT and the c-suite goes to jail and the company pays 200% of yearly revenue"
(3) same for having a cookie banner
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#423Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not going to defend the youtube captions as good, but even still, I find them incredibly helpful. My hearing is fine, but my processing is rubbish, and having a visual aid to help contextualize the sound is a big help, even when they're a bit wrong. Your point about the caption language is probably right though. It's worse with jargon or proper names, and worse with non-American English speakers. If we they don't…
Automatic translation famously fails catastrophically with Japanese, because it's a language that heavily depends on implied rather than explicit context. The minimal grammatically correct sentence is simply a verb, and it's an exercise to the reader to know what the subject and object are expected to be. (Essentially, the more formal/polite you get, the more things are added. You could say "kore wa atsu desu" to mea…
I assume people talk about transcription, not translation. Translation in youtube ime is indeed horrible in all languages I have tried, but transcription in english is good enough to be useful. However, the more technical jargon a video uses, the worse transcription is (translation is totally useless in anything technical there).
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#424Nobody wants anything from Mozilla except Firefox/Thunderbird to be high-performance alternatives to Chrome/Outlook with fewer restrictions on extensions. That’s it. The rest is just activism and kids playing in a sandbox with non-profit money to pad out their resume with whatever topical keywords might land them their next gig.
> Nobody wants anything from Mozilla except Firefox/Thunderbird to be high-performance alternatives to Chrome/Outlook with fewer restrictions on extensions.
Amen. I'd be happy if Firefox was a Chromium patched with better extension support and a mobile version.
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#426Does anyone want AI in anything? I can see the value of navigating to an LLM and asking specific questions, but generally speaking I don't want that just running / waiting on my machine as I open a variety of applications. It's a huge waste of resources and for most normal people is an edge case.
The only AI product where I've seen a meaningful quality of life improvement is the AI features in DaVinci resolve. They do things like detect music beats, automatically level audio, transcribe and detect audio, allow seamless redubs of flubbed voice lines with a good facsimile of the original voice, handle motion tracking, and more
Most (all?) of it runs locally too
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#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends; in the EU and selected countries that setting was always opt-in (i.e. it was never enabled for you). Elsewhere I guess the user has to periodically check their settings, or privacy policies, etc, which in practice sounds impossible. > Important: By default, smart feature settings are off if you live in: The European Economic Area, Japan, Switzerland, United Kingdom (same source as in grandparent comment).
Then no, I can't use a google product without being harassed, unless I live in a limited selection of blessed countries.
welcome to not being a passport bro for a change. Thats how mostbof the world feels when another cool thing happens, but the other way around
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#428Earlier quoted context omitted.
how is 52 users representative??
If they are purely random, it's damning. Flip a coin until you get heads 52 times in a row.
I can't imagine a quality random sample could come from 52 users who self-selected to participate in a browser beta, then self-selected to post about it in a thread on the Mozilla Connect forum.
The reactions to Firefox's AI features likely range from moderately positive to extremely negative. People who feel moderately about something don't usually bother posting. It doesn't matter how many people feel that way.
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#429Does anyone want AI in anything? I can see the value of navigating to an LLM and asking specific questions, but generally speaking I don't want that just running / waiting on my machine as I open a variety of applications. It's a huge waste of resources and for most normal people is an edge case.
Yes.
I want AI in my email to speed up (and avoid typos) in replying.
I want AI in my news feed to pull the topics that are interesting to me.
I want AI in online shopping to filter and recommend products by complex conditions.
I want AI in my car to make me safer.
I want AI in my calendar to schedule with a minimum of interruptions.
I want AI in my work chats to answer questions that people have already asked me.
I want AI to make clinical diagnoses more accurate.
I want AI for a thousand things and most people do, or will.
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#430Fuck, AI slop is literally everywhere. You need to go really deep to avoid it these days.