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Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by ryandrake »

amelius wrote: post #386
6031769 wrote: post #368

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It weakens the message because knowing that the image is fake casts equal doubt on anything which the text says.

This is total nonsense. Every reader will understand that Jobs was never photographed like that while saying "stop" to anyone crossing his red lines. Even if the photo exists, it would have been out of context. The only question here is if using that image is tasteful or not. Also, suggesting that Jobs did not have these red lines is not making the situation any better.

Well, I'm another person who shares that opinion. When I see AI in an article, I think: If an author will use AI to fake one thing, what else is he willing to fake? It totally draws into question the credibility of the whole article.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by xeromal »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #41
m463 wrote: post #29

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> "steve jobs wouldn't" and "apple dying" ... shrill I think these are fans of apple who have lost something. Personally I think steve jobs was a good integrator - he got people together. Sometimes the people were apple customers, sometimes music industry computers, etc If there was controversy, he stepped in and lead - and stepped into the spotlight and explained. I don't see the same sort of leadership nowadays. Co…

I think what Steve added to Apple more than anything was being the biggest asshole in the room who was willing to point at a fellow high-up person and tell them their idea sucked ass, and you may be surprised to read what comes next, I think that's critical to a good product line. There are numerous problems caused by having too many stakeholders, too many cooks in the kitchen if you will, steering your given ship, a…

I appreciate this comment end to end and wish I could write as effectively. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by InvertedRhodium »

kccqzy wrote: post #403
ryandrake wrote: post #399

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I just opened up App Store and the first screen is a full screen ad for Roblox. Then you scroll down and it’s 4 “now trending” ads, then below that another full screen as. The entire “Today” tab is a scroll full of ads.

That's why I don't open the App Store's first screen or the Today tab. I usually open the App Store to look at the release notes for my updatable apps. To find new apps, I use Google to find an app's page. A web-based search engine has blockable ads, the App Store app does not.

The today tab is the default one that opens when you start the App Store. At least on my 16Pro.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by amelius »

ryandrake wrote: post #421
amelius wrote: post #386

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This is total nonsense. Every reader will understand that Jobs was never photographed like that while saying "stop" to anyone crossing his red lines. Even if the photo exists, it would have been out of context. The only question here is if using that image is tasteful or not. Also, suggesting that Jobs did not have these red lines is not making the situation any better.

Well, I'm another person who shares that opinion. When I see AI in an article, I think: If an author will use AI to fake one thing, what else is he willing to fake? It totally draws into question the credibility of the whole article.

No it does not. Give some real arguments against the article otherwise I'm going to assume bad faith.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by akho »

layer8 wrote: post #327
NaomiLehman wrote: post #273

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by saturated i think you mean saturated the market. i would argue that almost every person that is their target has in iPhone. https://www.macrumors.com/2025/04/09/teen-iphone-ownership-c...

That’s in the US. Also I’m their target, but given their trajectory I’m increasingly inclined to switch to the other side, and I know that others are too.

if only the other side did not have their own trajectory

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by com2kid »

ryandrake wrote: post #418
com2kid wrote: post #176

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I've worked in consumer electronics, batteries are built in because reviewers will endlessly trash a product that is just 1mm thicker than anything apple puts out, and they fawn over apple because the products are so thin. If anyone releases a product that is just a tiny bit thicker than last year, except headlines like "new super-thick phone doesn't fit in pockets, causes back problems". A small exaggeration? Not by…

We need to stop making products for reviewers.

No one wants to, but that is how many consumers decide on what to buy. It is especially how early adopters tuned into the review scene for their favorite products decide what to buy.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by ryandrake »

amelius wrote: post #425
ryandrake wrote: post #421

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Well, I'm another person who shares that opinion. When I see AI in an article, I think: If an author will use AI to fake one thing, what else is he willing to fake? It totally draws into question the credibility of the whole article.

No it does not. Give some real arguments against the article otherwise I'm going to assume bad faith.

We are at an impasse then. You can't prove an opinion. Have a great day.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by kccqzy »

InvertedRhodium wrote: post #424
kccqzy wrote: post #403

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That's why I don't open the App Store's first screen or the Today tab. I usually open the App Store to look at the release notes for my updatable apps. To find new apps, I use Google to find an app's page. A web-based search engine has blockable ads, the App Store app does not.

The today tab is the default one that opens when you start the App Store. At least on my 16Pro.

That's my point. I don't start the App Store by tapping on its icon. I go to a specific page within the App Store.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Post by hexahedroid »

gwd wrote: post #75

> From that point on, Steve would go on to spend lavishly on things that improved the experience, and he would reject—often brutally—any idea that diluted or harmed the experience. ...I’ll go out on a limb and say that uninvited advertising is not normally equated with a better customer experience. YES!!! SOO much of the Apple user experience has degraded due to this. I can't listen to my own music that I bought on t…

I hated using the Books app without the book store disabled. The setting is buried in Settings -> Screen Time -> Content & Privacy Restrictions -> Allowed Apps & Features -> Book Store
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