On one hand, MinIO isn't obligated to anyone... on the other hand, there's a lot of people who now feel obligated to not use MinIO anymore. Given that MinIO won't patch their container images, are obligated in many cases. A Dockerfile that actually builds instead of copying binary blobs should be as simple as one that executes `go build`. So a fork that just adds that one step seems inevitable. Seems such a waste on many levels.
MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
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Maybe someone else somewhere is getting some unbelievably sweet deal but what I've seen from cloud discounting is more in the "single digit percentage" range than "2/3rds off" or something.
There are a ton of different discount options - large customers typically get between 50-60% discount based on committed spending, and AWS is pretty flexible around how that commit lands (they will allow roll overs even if they say they won't). Reserved instances get you ~70% discounts - similar to the committed spending. And my favorite - if it works for you - spot instances on EC2 come at as high as 90% off. Nobody…
How about S3? I haven’t personally seen them price that so aggressively but I have a limited sample set.
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#423I thought one day in the hn TOP-5 was more than enough for MinIO. I'm even starting to wonder, should we also drop Docker builds to get the same amount of PR for our open-source project.
Well some say 'all publicity is good publicity', I think in this case it has hurt MinIO more than anything as far as public adoption is concerned.
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#424So, basically, MinIO is dead.
Time to move on, folks. Dead horse is dead. Kicking it will release toxic decomposition sludge.
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I think very few businesses were created just to help people. Maybe some nonprofits. Lots of good businesses were created to just make their owners a reasonable income, I mean, most people will take “be rich” if that’s an option but have reasonable expectations. The problem with heavily invested in companies is occurs when they skip the stage of being a small profitable business with an actual business model.
I think even 50 years ago, that most people started businesses because they had a skill and could use it to help others meet their needs. HP started (more than 50 years ago) with two friends who wanted to make better electronic test equipment. Profit was not forefront in their mind like it is to an MBA graduate today. Hewlett and Packard wanted to provide quality test equipment to people, because a lot of the test eq…
> Zero employers today would even briefly consider paying people any amount at all to not be at work while also paying for the thing keeping them away from work.
Apple definitely had programs to pay all or part of relevant educational programs, and they sometimes paid for people to attend conferences. I'm sure it was much more restrictive than the HP policy you're describing here, but it was definitely more than nothing.
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#427Maintaining docker builds isn’t that huge of a burden (and likely very useful for them too), and they’re delegating hosting to a third party… I don’t get what they’re trying to achieve here.
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#428I thought one day in the hn TOP-5 was more than enough for MinIO. I'm even starting to wonder, should we also drop Docker builds to get the same amount of PR for our open-source project.
Well some say 'all publicity is good publicity', I think in this case it has hurt MinIO more than anything as far as public adoption is concerned.
I believe it's too early to judge public adoption. Let's see in a few years if it degrades somehow. For now, they jumped from 55,880 to 56,319 GitHub stars in one day.
From the product side, I don't see how this should affect new adopters who didn't read the hn post yesterday
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it used to be that people started businesses so that they could help others by providing a product or a service to them. late stage capitalism arrives when people create businesses solely to get rich, and when other companies are created solely to get rich by helping those people create their companies so that they can get rich. that's what ycombinator is. most of capitalism used to be symbiotic. engaging in transact…
That's a bit naive. Look at the early industrial revolution, when most goods were still made at home, locally or on a small scale by craftsmen. People went from having the land and resources to craft, for example, their own shoes, then a few decades later they were in a position where they had to buy shitty factory made shoes that fell apart instead because they were kicked off their land to work in factories.
I've seen the land that my ancestors left to become factory workers. There simply wasn't enough of it to feed everyone. In fact, the last pre-factory ancestor worked as an itinerant tailor because there was no land for him to cultivate.
I'm pretty sure factory work was a step upward for these families.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#430Maintaining docker builds isn’t that huge of a burden (and likely very useful for them too), and they’re delegating hosting to a third party… I don’t get what they’re trying to achieve here.
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