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Post by utilize1808 »

grkhetan wrote: post #362
utilize1808 wrote: post #309

Now imagine corporations start to use this to monitor their workforce...

Chrome browser has extensive enterprise support. Companies already control and monitor Chrome browser activity on the computers of their employees. And it's okay as well -- privacy should not be assumed or expected on company-owned devices.

It's different. It used to be that they don't have enough resources to "keep an eye on you" all the time. All those captured activities are only used against you when you are already on the redundancy shortlist. Now AI can watch what and how you are doing things 24/7, producing real-time reports on your productivity and performance --- a truly dystopian experience.

BTW I've already seen something like this being deployed in China. It's only a matter of time before the rest of the world gets the same treatment I am afraid.

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Post by ragequittah »

mvieira38 wrote: post #365
ragequittah wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not so sure this is much worse than Chrome. Really in today's world if you're not browsing the web like multiple people are looking over your shoulder you're probably doing it wrong. And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized. The one solution I do like is the iCloud private relay which I hope some reputable VPN…

> And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized. If you're using them correctly there is no way to scrutinize your traffic more, these comments just spread FUD for no good reason. How are "they" unable to catch darkweb criminals for years and even decades, but somehow can tell if it's me browsing reddit over Tor?

My take: if you do it correctly you're a very small minority of people and most would probably be concerned at your level of paranoia if you told them every detail of your setup. Turns out opsec is pretty difficult to achieve. Also unless you're a criminal you're probably wasting a lot of time for no real gain.

I use a pihole, ublock, a vpn for some devices, and I'm using my own OPNSense router w/ very strict settings. The amount of privacy I think I have from all that is next to nothing if someone were actually interested in what I was doing. I'd probably just get one of my boxes shelled and that's the end of that. Mostly what I'm trying to do is block 1) Some for the lulz Russian teenager 2) the shady ad networks hoovering up everything all the time and 3) my IoT devices like TVs and Hue light bulbs from ever accessing any part of the rest of my network.

You'll also notice that darkweb criminals are getting caught more and more frequently these days because governments have decided to no longer tolerate it. I feel bad for you if you're in a ransomware gang these days.

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Post by greyman »

sloankev wrote: post #306

Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people? Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak. [0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/

I conditioned myself to not type too-revealing texts about myself into the computer. It isn't ideal but of course this is quite a big problem.

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Post by Kiro »

andoando wrote: post #356
seizethecheese wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the hike itself more meaningful than the searching for it. If an LLM can recommend be me a better hike, I’m all for it. The word choice here: “you’ll be told what to do” doesn’t really reflect my experience with LLMs. You can always ask for more recommendations or push back. (As an aside, I’ve found LLMs to be terrible for recommending books.)

I found a big part of what makes doing an activity enjoyable is the time spent thinking/planning involed to make it happen. For example if I spent a week looking at exactly how to plan my trip, and then finally going out to accomplish it vs just waking up one morning and someone guiding me on exactly what to do

I'm the complete opposite. Nothing enjoyable about it whatsoever. I love going on trips with a friend group where someone takes lead and I don't need to be involved in the planning at all.

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Post by chrisweekly »

sloankev wrote: post #306

Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people? Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak. [0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/

Weary (tired) or wary (afraid)?

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Post by LeoPanthera »

dudeinhawaii wrote: post #397

I'm usually an early adopter but wow every single browser except Firefox features AI integrations. It feels like a recipe for profound privacy leaks in the future. I suppose that's already a risk with OpenAI/Anthropic/Gemini/etc websites but this will increase the blast radius exponentially.

Safari's AI features run locally on your device. And they're limited to probably useful things like "summarize this page". I found this far more acceptable.

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Post by Kiro »

threetonesun wrote: post #387
gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

It would be great if it could do my taxes, or schedule a doctor's appointment, or do literally anything that's actually difficult and time consuming, but because those problems haven't already been solved by APIs it can't and never will be able to.

I've done my taxes through an API for years and it would be trivial to hook up an AI if I wanted to. I also don't see what would be so hard about scheduling a doctor's appointment when I'm already doing it through an app.

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Post by basisword »

threetonesun wrote: post #387
gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

It would be great if it could do my taxes, or schedule a doctor's appointment, or do literally anything that's actually difficult and time consuming, but because those problems haven't already been solved by APIs it can't and never will be able to.

These things aren't difficult because they have to be. It's because the people in your town/state/country make them difficult. Personally, to make a doctor's appointment I open an app, select a time slot, and wait for a call later that day. If they want me to come in, they give me a time and I go in. Taxes is mostly automated but for the bits that aren't I tell them how much I made in total, fill in a short form, and get told what I owe. Simple.

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Post by basisword »

hollowturtle wrote: post #410
infecto wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did we watch the same demo. Maybe I skipped over those parts. It nailed one of my immediate needs. Grocery shopping. I really don’t want to waste time adding items to my Walmart shopping cart for pickup or delivery. I want to send a bunch of recipe videos, get back a book of my version of how to format a recipe and also a cart full for me to click purchase. They nailed this.

I'm Italian, I love cooking in my free time, it's also part of our culture. I honestly can't figure out what's stressfull and time wasting shopping for groceries, I often get lost inside the smell of vegetables, pickin the right one, looking for the right color, even optimizing for cost and less waste. I find it so relaxing and like a zen experience

If I were to start smelling vegetables in the local supermarket I'd be escorted out. I also hate cooking and hate shopping. I generally order the same items, order them online in 5 mins, and have them delivered.
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