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Post by brainwad »

layer8 wrote: post #331
1970-01-01 wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great point. I would make the counterargument that app translators doing simple transactions of languageA to languageB for $X was possible a decade ago. AI certainly has made that low hanging fruit impossible to capitalize at speed and scale. Since AI has made the easiest part of translator's jobs much harder to monetize, translators can still offer value in lengthy transactions. Books that are to be transl…

The (former) translators I know mostly translated B2B publications (brochures, specifications, …), commonly containing specialized domain vocabulary. Certainly not low-hanging fruit. I’m sure AI can’t make a quality job on those without guidance and review by a speaker of both languages knowledgeable in the respective domain. Nevertheless, the market for such translations has dried up, and those that remain only pay…

It's because the marginal value of idiomatic human translations, over robotic and partially bad machine translations, is not actually that high. Especially not for B2B where people can accept poor prose from a trading partner.

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Post by vntok »

abeppu wrote: post #359
para_parolu wrote: post #350

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No cheap sugar?

... but also increasingly sedentary lives, in part related to the kinds of things we do all day?

No, most countries have followed this trend as well and don't have nearly the same obesity prevalence increase.

It's preprocessed food and sugar intake in general that are particularly bad in the US.

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Post by erichocean »

JimDabell wrote: post #336
TechSquidTV wrote: post #86

Personal belief, but robots coming for your jobs is not a valid argument against robots. If robots can do a job better and/or faster, they should be the ones doing the jobs. Specialization is how we got to the future. So the problem isn't robots, it's the structure of how we humans rely on jobs for income. I don't necessarily feel like it's the AI company's problem to fix either. This is what government is for, and n…

> robots coming for your jobs is not a valid argument against robots. Taking work away from people is practically the definition of technology. We invent things to reduce the effort needed to do things. Eliminating work is a good thing, that’s why inventing things is so popular! What ends up happening is the amount of work remains relatively constant, meaning we get more done for the same amount of effort performed b…

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Post by cloverich »

abeppu wrote: post #359
para_parolu wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No cheap sugar?

... but also increasingly sedentary lives, in part related to the kinds of things we do all day?

It took me a long time to come around to simplifying it all to sugar. Its not the only reason of course but my mind now thinks: There are other countries like ours, except not everyone is fat. Sugar bypasses our normal satiety - you can put dessert and sugary drinks on top of a regular diet, easier than you can a second or third serving of the entree. Sugar is cheap and an easy way to make money in the food business. And we have sugar factories galore selling candy disguised as coffee. Add one coke a day to a balanced diet, and you add 5-10lb of fat to a person per year.

My bias is now simply, its the sugar. No not only. But far and away the number one culrpit.

Re: Replacement.ai

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Post by yujzgzc »

dom96 wrote: post #246
yujzgzc wrote: post #46

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AGI does not replace "everything". It might replace most of the work that someone can do behind a desk, but there are a lot of jobs that involve going out there and working with reality outside of the computer.

You don't think AGI will be able to figure out a way to give itself a physical form capable of doing all those jobs?

I think about all the actual physical work that goes into building a functioning supply chain, and that it will take a lot more than "figuring out" to manifest such a physical form.

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Post by brainwad »

alexpotato wrote: post #234

My concern is this: There is an intersection of certain industries and a particular demographic where adapting/retraining will be either very difficult or impossible. Case in point: - car factory town in Michigan - factory shuts down - nursing school opens in the town - they open a hospital - everyone thinks "Great! We can hire nurses from the school for the hospital" - hospital says "Yeah, but we want experienced nu…

You win some, you lose some. When you say they made a rational choice, that implies they knew there was a chance of this outcome and they thought the gamble was worth it. We can't bail out every losing gambler, without banning gambling.

The auto workers should leave town to find a suitable job, selling their homes to the incoming healthcare workers.

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Post by defgeneric »

lateforwork wrote: post #111

You don't need money. What you need is wealth. I am going to leave it to PG to explain the difference [1]: Wealth is not money. Wealth is stuff we want: food, clothes, houses, cars, gadgets, travel to interesting places, and so on. You can have wealth without having money. If you had a magic machine that could on command make you a car or cook you dinner or do your laundry, or do anything else you wanted, you wouldn'…

It's garbage opinions like this that makes PG so tiring. The superficial air of reasonableness makes it attractive to younger SF tech people who haven't experienced the context out of which these arguments arose and have no idea who he's plagiarizing/channeling. (For starters, the distinction between wealth and money/capital goes back at least to the 17th century.) For those who are more interested in being the "next unicorn" than engaging seriously with ideas, his little "essays" serve as kind of armor--we don't have to think about that problem because PG wrote about it!

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Post by [deleted] »

reactordev wrote: post #109
TechSquidTV wrote: post #86

Personal belief, but robots coming for your jobs is not a valid argument against robots. If robots can do a job better and/or faster, they should be the ones doing the jobs. Specialization is how we got to the future. So the problem isn't robots, it's the structure of how we humans rely on jobs for income. I don't necessarily feel like it's the AI company's problem to fix either. This is what government is for, and n…

What you end up with is a dozen people owning all the wealth and everyone else owning nothing, resulting in the robots not doing anything because no one is buying anything, resulting in a complete collapse of the economic system the world uses to operate. Mass riots, hunger wars, political upheaval, world war 3. Nuke the opposition before they nuke you.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #188
CamperBob2 wrote: post #159

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A Great Leap Forward is what you get when you give a few fanatical ideologues too much power. I don't see anything in my history book about robots or AI being connected with that. They seem like different topics altogether.

> give a few fanatical ideologues too much power. Uh, have you seen the US lately? I think that ship has sailed.

Well, we're certainly taking a Great Leap, so that part checks out at least.

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Post by brandensilva »

sincerely wrote: post #9

I kind of get it, but at the same time...isn't "we made a machine to do something that people used to do" basically the entire history of of technology? It feels like somehow we should have figured out how to cope with the "but what about the old jobs" problem

The problem isn't the failure of the mathematicians and engineers who succeeded at the task of automating humanities mundane tasks in life.

It's that the people failed to elect and wield a government that ensures all humanity benefits from it and not a select few who control it all.

And I think it will become clear that the governments that are investing in it to benefit their people who have ownership versus the ones who invest in it to benefit just a handful of the rich are the ones who will keep society stable while this happens.

The other path we are going down is you will have mass unrest, move into a police state to control the resistance like America is doing now, and be exactly what Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and Larry Ellison want with AI driven surveillance and Orwellian dystopian vision forcing people to comply or be cut out of existence deactivating their Digital IDs.

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