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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by manquer »

Noaidi wrote: post #303
leakycap wrote: post #260

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> Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade M1 MacBooks are ~5 years old at this point, and if you've been working a laptop hard for 5 years it's often worth getting an upgrade for battery life as well as speed.

I still have 94% of my battery health left on my 2020 M1, and I have all the speed I need as a casual, avergae user.

What magic are you and everyone else doing ? I already have only 92% on my less than year old M4 14inch Pro.

I haven't booted up the older M1 recently to check, but I remember it was throwing replace battery warnings well before I got the upgrade and that I think that triggering below 80%.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by klardotsh »

nicoburns wrote: post #365
godelski wrote: post #354

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> Sounds more like a you problem I'm sorry, I just really hate this Apple Fanboy rhetoric. It's frequent and infuriating. Don't get me wrong, I hate it when the linux people do it too, but they tend to tell you how to get shit done while being mean. The biggest problem with Linux is poor interfaces[0] but the biggest problem with Apple is handcuffs. And honestly, I do not find Apple interfaces intuitive. Linux interf…

> With Apple, it is "Do things the Apple way, or not at all". Well kinda, you don't have to use all that much Apple software on macs though. If you can live with the window manager / desktop environment then you can use whichever apps you choose for pretty anything else.

Which would be less of a problem if the window manager and desktop environment weren’t some of the absolute worst parts of the entire OS.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by inkyoto »

sofixa wrote: post #335
coldtea wrote: post #92

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> The OS also has weird rough edges when used from the terminal - there are read-only parts, there are restrictions on loading libraries, multiple utilities come with very old versions or BSD versions with different flags than the GNU ones you might be used to coming from Linux, the package manager is pretty terrible. You use nix or brew (or something like MacPorts). And they are mighty fine. You shouldn't be concern…

Brew is pretty terrible though. It's slow, and doesn't handle updates/versions/dependencies all that well. I've had it make major (with breaking changes) updates to random software when asked to install something unrelated.

  HOMEBREW_NO_AUTO_UPDATE=1

  HOMEBREW_NO_INSTALLED_DEPENDENTS_CHECK=1

  export HOMEBREW_NO_AUTO_UPDATE HOMEBREW_NO_INSTALLED_DEPENDENTS_CHECK
brew is fine. Not the best package manager, not the worst one either.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by jiggawatts »

chrismorgan wrote: post #204
lm28469 wrote: post #60

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The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

ASUS’s ZenBook Duo (UX84060) is over 50% dearer in Australia than in the USA. When it was announced, I expected it to be at least 4000 AUD (~2600 USD). When I heard it was starting at 1500 USD instead (~2300 AUD), I was astonished and very excited. And it still is that price… but only in the US. In Australia it is 4000 AUD (the 32GB/1TB model, which is 1700 USD, ~2600 AUD). So I sadly didn’t get one. Is the rest of t…

Australia has actual consumer protections such as mandatory warranty repair for years on most high end electronics. This is the “real price” that includes the vendor’s estimated failure rate and cost to repair.

Americans pay the same amount, but… stochastically.

PS: Health care is similar. Australians pay a fairly predictable amount via taxes and Medicare, Americans gamble with bankruptcy every time they break a leg. But hey, if they don’t break a leg then the “system works”!

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by apparent »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #363
apparent wrote: post #352

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MVNOs FTW. They know they're competing for price-conscious consumers so have to offer more value. The big 3 know most of their customers are going to go with one of the big boys, all of whom are expensive and not great.

MVNOs have slower data rates since they buy deprioritized traffic in bulk, don’t have the roaming agreements domestically and especially not internationally, and don’t offer unlimited high speed data.

Hm, not my experience. When traveling internationally there was an option I could have used, but I chose to use a local SIM card instead. The data speeds are just fine for me, and I haven't experienced any issues with roaming domestically.

But then I don't even care about 5g versus 4g/LTE for the most part, so perhaps I'm just not noticing limits that affect others.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

apparent wrote: post #425
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #363

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MVNOs have slower data rates since they buy deprioritized traffic in bulk, don’t have the roaming agreements domestically and especially not internationally, and don’t offer unlimited high speed data.

Hm, not my experience. When traveling internationally there was an option I could have used, but I chose to use a local SIM card instead. The data speeds are just fine for me, and I haven't experienced any issues with roaming domestically. But then I don't even care about 5g versus 4g/LTE for the most part, so perhaps I'm just not noticing limits that affect others.

That’s how MVNOs work, they buy data in bulk at wholesale prices. But they pay for lower QoS. There isn’t anything wrong with that. But they are getting jankier bandwidth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QoS_Class_Identifier

T-Mobile comes with 5GB of high speed data per month to use for roaming in Canada and Mexico and lower speed data roaming almost anywhere else in the world.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by artdigital »

WXLCKNO wrote: post #114

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

When I handed in my M1 Max MBP for repair, I bought a M3? Or M4 MBA to return when I get my MBP back, or to keep if I really notice a difference.

Used it for a week and came to the same conclusion, I felt absolutely no difference in day to day usage except that the MBA is nice and slim. And better battery.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by xpe »

mholm wrote: post #180
lostlogin wrote: post #145

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I’m a lifelong Mac user and didn’t know this. Shame on me.

Apple really doesn't tell power-users about a lot of these features. You can really gain a lot by searching for Mac shortcuts and tricks. I still learn new things that have been around for over a decade.

Another tip: lots of useful characters are only an option press away. You can find them by viewing your keyboard [1], which is easy if you have you input source on your dock. Some of my favorites:

     ⌥k = ˚ (degree)         ⌥e a = á
     ⌥p = π (pi)             ⌥e e = é
     ⌥5 = ∞ (infinity)       ⌥e i = í
     ⌥d = ∂ (delta)          ⌥e o = ó
     ⌥8 = • (bullet)         ⌥e u = ú
    ⇧⌥9 = · (middot)         ⌥n n = ñ
⇧ = shift; ⌥ = option

[1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/use-the-keyboard-vi...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by artdigital »

manquer wrote: post #421
Noaidi wrote: post #303

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I still have 94% of my battery health left on my 2020 M1, and I have all the speed I need as a casual, avergae user.

What magic are you and everyone else doing ? I already have only 92% on my less than year old M4 14inch Pro. I haven't booted up the older M1 recently to check, but I remember it was throwing replace battery warnings well before I got the upgrade and that I think that triggering below 80%.

Yes if it hits 79%, you can swap it under AppleCare+ at the Apple Store. My MBP M1 Max is on the second replacement and still great!

I use Al Dente to further optimize battery and calibrate it now and then

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by seg_lol »

heavyset_go wrote: post #328
coldtea wrote: post #84

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> I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

I've used Macs for 20 years starting on the day 32-bit Intel Macs were released, and agree with the GP. Linux and Plasma spoiled me, going back to macOS and its windowing system feels like a step backward, especially for development, where using multiple windows is a must. Task switching is.. not good? I don't get window previews I can switch through when I hover over the dock, but I do on Linux. Yes, I know about Ya…

You can put a dock on each monitor on the mac.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254917813?sortBy=rank

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