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Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by heavyset_go »

nabla9 wrote: post #390
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The FSF is now under the leadership of a "Bachelor of Arts degree in Media and Culture and a Master of Arts in the Preservation and Presentation of the Moving Image" who probably hasn't written a line of code. This is an exceptionally poor argument. 1. Coders are biased and often not aligned with users whose rights FSF is there to protect. Just look at any OSS vs FS discussion on this site to see examples. 2. Your…

In free software those who write code decide what is done and nobody else matters in the end.

Stuff like this makes me embarassed to say I write free software, which is already a niche position that will have you pigeonholed as it is.

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by styanax »

TranquilMarmot wrote: post #279
cookiengineer wrote: post #265

Why can't they just partner with postmarketOS here? Why do we have to have /e/OS instead of a better supported LineageOS, because /e/ is a 1:1 copy anyways? Why do we have to have a Librephone project now instead of partnering with say, Fairphone and the Pine64 people? Open source loses this war because proprietary devices are streamlined. The only thing that comes close to this is GrapheneOS, LineageOS, and postmark…

Supposedly Graphene is partnering with a major OEM (they say "one of the top 10") to get better hardware support. Even then they're still at the whim of Google, though - the most recent QPR1 update still has not been pushed to AOSP even after many weeks. Supposedly partnering with an OEM means they get these updates quicker but who knows.

You may have missed this, it's only been ~11 days since the post but they've got a solution now, with the first release having happened:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27068-grapheneos-security-p...

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by theobreuerweil »

dmacj wrote: post #403
theobreuerweil wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think it's unfair to accuse this person of sexism. I didn't even know he was talking about a woman until you pointed it out. It's possible that this comment comes from a place of sexism, and it's possible that it doesn't. It's uncharitable to just assume the former.

I think it’s referring to this line: > It is very feminine and obviously doesn't work that well.

Wow skimmed that part - yeah I guess fair enough

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by BaudouinVH »

bluenose69 wrote: post #345
BaudouinVH wrote: post #340

dear FSF, let's discuss your https://librephone.fsf.org/ web site. It does the job but it's not easy on the eye. Full-width line of text. Readability nightmare. Here is how it looks with just a link to a CSS (I closed my eyes on the cssbed.com and picked one at random). https://librephone.surge.sh/librephone-website.html

Yup, that's pretty bad. But, as an old fart with old eyes, I now use Safari and click the 'reader' version on many sites. Frankly, the web in it's early years was preferable to much of what I see nowadays. But, like I say, I'm an old fart. Heck, I used punch cards throughout my undergraduate days.

I use reader mode too. When I do it triggers a "imperfect lay-out" alarm.

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by guerrilla »

j45 wrote: post #333
sunshine-o wrote: post #320

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I only saw him once and I immediately understood how he could lead such a revolution. It is not about being "like him", he was just some fat old man with a big beard and I remember thinking he probably smells pretty bad. What was broad and inspiring was his vision and leadership as an human.

Everyone can develop their own personal leadership too instead of looking to others and judging leadership.

If that were true, the world would be a lot better than it is in general.

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by torginus »

cookiengineer wrote: post #265

Why can't they just partner with postmarketOS here? Why do we have to have /e/OS instead of a better supported LineageOS, because /e/ is a 1:1 copy anyways? Why do we have to have a Librephone project now instead of partnering with say, Fairphone and the Pine64 people? Open source loses this war because proprietary devices are streamlined. The only thing that comes close to this is GrapheneOS, LineageOS, and postmark…

That's just the unfortunate reality of free software. Free software is anarchy, and the only people who thrive in anarchy are the ones who band into fiefdoms, who then fight amongst each other and build mutually incompatible projects (often from the very same components) which are direct substitutes to each other.

There's tons of evidence of this with stuff like linux distros, desktop environments (each one MUST have its own sanctioned file manager, video player, music player etc, god forbid some godless charlatan come along and make its own).

The price of admission into these 'tribes' is the adoption of the local creed (libraries/HIG/coding style/whatever/not speaking out against the Dear Leader/Core Principles/local purity committee). As with other such despotic organizations, incompetence and laziness is tolerated, disloyalty is not.

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by bombcar »

ray_v wrote: post #14
kube-system wrote: post #7

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I can’t tap my PC to buy a burrito at Chipotle.

This sounds like a challenge to me.

I took "tap to pay" being clicking on Order in an app; and I have certainly made a "online order" from inside the Chipotle, on their wifi with my laptop (usually because walking to the counter would cost more because of stupid promotions).

It makes more sense that they're referring to Apple Pay or similar shenanigans (which itself is more annoying than a credit card, to be honest, Face ID goes wrong or the double click closes the wallet app instead of authenticating way too many times, especially if you're trying to do it one-handed).

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by fender256 »

sunshine-o wrote: post #284
cookiengineer wrote: post #265

Why can't they just partner with postmarketOS here? Why do we have to have /e/OS instead of a better supported LineageOS, because /e/ is a 1:1 copy anyways? Why do we have to have a Librephone project now instead of partnering with say, Fairphone and the Pine64 people? Open source loses this war because proprietary devices are streamlined. The only thing that comes close to this is GrapheneOS, LineageOS, and postmark…

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Feminine? What on earth? How can an NGO have a gender? And more importantly, why does it need one? I like your comment, but the word "feminine" is really sexist, as if everything female was of less value.

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Post by cbeach »

sunshine-o wrote: post #305
padjo wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> every time one of those foundations announce a "non coding" woman as their new leader, if you read between the lines, it is because they need to be more "ESG"

That might explain why the Scala Center (which oversees the Scala language) has a young political sciences grad as its executive director. She has zero commercial or academic experience in Scala.

And this is how she behaves at conferences:

https://x.com/jdegoes/status/1633888998434193411

Leftwing political activism, cancel culture and #metoo-style witchhunts (example: https://pretty.direct/statement )

This is what the Scala "community" has become. It's tragic, given how good the language is.

Re: FSF announces Librephone project

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Post by pferde »

torginus wrote: post #426
cookiengineer wrote: post #265

Why can't they just partner with postmarketOS here? Why do we have to have /e/OS instead of a better supported LineageOS, because /e/ is a 1:1 copy anyways? Why do we have to have a Librephone project now instead of partnering with say, Fairphone and the Pine64 people? Open source loses this war because proprietary devices are streamlined. The only thing that comes close to this is GrapheneOS, LineageOS, and postmark…

That's just the unfortunate reality of free software. Free software is anarchy, and the only people who thrive in anarchy are the ones who band into fiefdoms, who then fight amongst each other and build mutually incompatible projects (often from the very same components) which are direct substitutes to each other. There's tons of evidence of this with stuff like linux distros, desktop environments (each one MUST have…

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