It's a massive step up from the status quo of companies selling defective products without customers having the ability to repair the defect.
Well then, you live in the best of worlds because every laptop is repairable even at the chip level or individual capacitor/resistor/connector level. All you need is a workshop, a multimeter, oscilloscope, probes, a hot air gun, a microscope, a variety of soldering tools, a variety of solder, solder mask, access to schematics and donor boards, and a lifetime of experience. Here's a guy who repairs Dell laptops all da…
That's all a massive step beyond "order a free part from the vendor with instructions on how to solder it on yourself".
I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol How are they slower/impossible?
I've missed them every time I've been in the unfortunate position of dealing with someone else's macOS system. It's all a matter of what you're accustomed to.
They said the mac solution is slower than discrete buttons, I’m contesting that part specifically
If they designed their keyboard ergonomically, they wouldn't need numpad modules. But yes, can't please everyone, too many people with low standards easily pleasable
Bit pedantic… being satisfied with less is a quality, let’s not forget this.
I've missed them every time I've been in the unfortunate position of dealing with someone else's macOS system. It's all a matter of what you're accustomed to.
They said the mac solution is slower than discrete buttons, I’m contesting that part specifically
I stand by what I said. It may not be slower for you.
You've got a 16 inch Laptop, why are the arrow keys so tiny! And where's the PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster? I wish a design-based shop like Framework would have some leadership in the keyboard area. This is why I have been exclusively Thinkpads for my last 3 laptops. Something more niche is that I also enjoy the mouse buttons above the trackpad, I can move with the thumb and click with a finger.
Use VIM bindings, and you will never need the "PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster" ever again. I surely didn't miss it a single day in the past 15 years...
The keyboards have full NKRO support and are fully mappable with QMK firmware, plus they offer blank key caps AND a macro or numpad input module. That feels like plenty of leadership to me - that's unheard of in any other laptop. Can't please everyone I guess.
If they designed their keyboard ergonomically, they wouldn't need numpad modules. But yes, can't please everyone, too many people with low standards easily pleasable
As someone who has been stuck with 13 inch laptops for years, and loves numpads, this is categorically false. With even a day of practice you will massively overtake your numerical typing speed with a numpad. If you have issues with it, you can try putting the numpad module on the left. Some people swear by it.
You've got a 16 inch Laptop, why are the arrow keys so tiny! And where's the PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster? I wish a design-based shop like Framework would have some leadership in the keyboard area. This is why I have been exclusively Thinkpads for my last 3 laptops. Something more niche is that I also enjoy the mouse buttons above the trackpad, I can move with the thumb and click with a finger.
You probably want a full numpad shifting the entire keyboard off-center as well?
Apple people always complain about this. It takes like 1 day to get used to. I will never understand how so many people mistake familiar with 'better'. I have always preferred a numpad, and it drives me crazy when people act like my preference is 'wrong', and that the fact the fw-16 supports it somehow devalues it.
My last 3 laptops have also been Thinkpads. In addition to the mouse buttons above the trackpad, I also enjoy Thinkpad's trackpoint. Too bad Framework doesn't offer any mouse buttons and trackpoint on their keyboards, otherwise I might have considered them.
The company actually put a video out a yesterday or the day before about adding a trackpoint - they're open to the idea, but they're all too tall! They actually tried to add it, but it always put pressure on the screen because their keyboards are too low-profile to accommodate one.
Just make it soft and fleshy! And if you prefer it firmer just blow on it or use an ice cube
I like Framework as an idea, but we're talking about a 1500$ premium over this competing 16 inch laptop. 1200$ https://www.bestbuy.com/product/gigabyte-aero-x16-copilot-pc... I literally can buy 2 of the Gigabyte laptops for the same price. Even if I can swap out some parts, odds are it's still easier( and cheaper) to just buy a new competing laptop ever 3 years. If your motivation is "the environment" you can always…
I'm tired of buying premium machines and having the hinges blow out. I had a sager where the metal frame itself next to the hinge fatigued and broke. They refused to honor their warranty and claimed it was user induced damage. Shit like that sticks with you, and that machine was $2,400. I can deal with buying cheap junk and having it break, I can also deal with spending and arm and a leg and getting a premium machine that holds together. The issue is today if you are foolish enough to spend and arm and a leg on a laptop, it will fail you just as readily as the junk. I just lost my MBP because the shift key went out (MBP has 0 liquid protection, liquid got in a hole that goes directly into the membrane layers). An entire 1.5k laptop is e-waste because the keyboard is riveted to the chassis with a hardware locked fingerprint reader. I'm done buying junk, I got a fw-13 and had the mainboard replaced under rma. It took me 10 mins to swap out the entire mainboard and send it off.