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Re: How to Firefox

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A tip I would add to this article is that Firefox natively supports sidebar tabs now without needing hacky extensions. Go to about:preferences under the Browser Layout section of the General tab, and select Vertical Tabs. The tab group functionality along with Multi-Account Containers are a lot more useful under this layout IMO.

ooo didn't realise that was out already. Prolly won't leave Sidebery, since I've got it pretty well tuned now, but still curious to try it out

Re: How to Firefox

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I'm not sure making a list that's been done time and time again here would make a difference. But if you're truly interested, here are my top 3: - Firefox comes packed with all kinds of telemetry and analytics turned on. - No workspaces/profiles. I know there are extensions that can enable various flavours of this functionality, but it's just too much overhead to experiment and test every-single-one. - Widgets! I lov…

> No workspaces/profiles. I know there are extensions that can enable various flavours of this functionality, but it's just too much overhead to experiment and test every-single-one. Most of it is built-in and these days there is generally only one recommended extension: Multi-Account Container. Containers (tabs in the same window with different cookie jars/etc) are built-in, the UI for working with them is not, and…

I think the parent comment acknowledges that it's indeed possible but all that are so many steps one shouldn't have to perform just to get to the feature.

Firefox wants to be customisable, but instead of features, its out-of-box experience is focused on sharing activity with Google and giving you sponsored bookmarks... I agree that the priorities there are not exactly user-focused.

Re: How to Firefox

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Sorry, but I can't stand posts like this and they always come up in discussions about Firefox. If you have a better alternative than Firefox, please say so. Mozilla has many problems and has done bad stuff. Firefox is better than Chrome for most users. These are not mutually exclusive statements.

It is just facts. I use Safari with Wipr and iCloud Private Relay, better than FF if you have Apple devices.

They're facts, but they aren't helpful on their own. The article is about convincing Chrome users to switch to Firefox. If all you do is criticize Mozilla - no matter how much they deserve it - then you are signalling to users that they should stay with Chrome. Despite Mozilla's many problems, I'm sure you'd agree that Google is even worse.

An alternative to Firefox needs to be offered at the very least, or all you're doing is helping Google keep its iron grip on the web.

Re: How to Firefox

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I use Firefox, Chrome, and Edge on a Windows 10 machine. I use Chrome 90% of the time because Firefox is slow and has many bugs on video sites like 9gag. The screen goes black, the video loses vertical sync, etc. The same happens with Edge. In my experience, the problem with Firefox's popularity is technical. I'll use Firefox more often if it improves. Before Firefox 3.6 (probably that version), Firefox was my most u…

> Before Firefox 3.6 (probably that version), Firefox was my most used browser, but after that version, Firefox started getting slower and more buggy. Haha, I remember that same feeling, with 3.6 being "peak" Firefox back in the day. My 3.6 was heavily hand-tailored to my needs via about:config etc. Just some dedicated end-user here, but I did know it very well. Version 4 felt considerably worse on a WinXP system, so…

I had known that 3.6 was released when Firefox was at its absolute peak in terms of market share but I am somewhat surprised (not really) that this seems to also correspond with its peak in overall quality for some people. This is not the case with Internet Explorer.

Re: How to Firefox

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post #422

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> No workspaces/profiles. I know there are extensions that can enable various flavours of this functionality, but it's just too much overhead to experiment and test every-single-one. Most of it is built-in and these days there is generally only one recommended extension: Multi-Account Container. Containers (tabs in the same window with different cookie jars/etc) are built-in, the UI for working with them is not, and…

I think the parent comment acknowledges that it's indeed possible but all that are so many steps one shouldn't have to perform just to get to the feature. Firefox wants to be customisable, but instead of features, its out-of-box experience is focused on sharing activity with Google and giving you sponsored bookmarks... I agree that the priorities there are not exactly user-focused.

It's 1 (official from Mozilla) extension to install (easily, from a simple marketplace) or 1 url and/or 2 command line flags to learn just long enough to bookmark them/add them to a shortcut file somewhere.

I don't feel like that is "so many steps". Two choices, one easy thing to do whichever path you chose.

The one thing is an extension still because Mozilla still doesn't think the UX is right and doesn't want to include it out of the box until they think the UX is 100% solid, especially for general users, not just power users. The other thing has active improvements to its out-of-the-box UX already in beta testing/slow rollout.

The only activity Firefox shares with Google is if you leave Google the default search, which is a real easy to change at the top of the Settings page.

Sponsored bookmarks are dumb but easy to ignore. It is also easy to replace the New Tab page with a Blank Page (also right at the top of the Settings page) if you really don't want to see it, and there are extensions for other New Tab Page options.

Sure, making a bit of money by setting the default search to Google and showing a couple icons of brands isn't exactly "user-focused" but it's just business, and it doesn't seem to be getting in the way of prioritizing user features.

Re: How to Firefox

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> I just missed too many things out of the box. Another very vague comment bashing Firefox without any real explanation.

I'm not sure making a list that's been done time and time again here would make a difference. But if you're truly interested, here are my top 3: - Firefox comes packed with all kinds of telemetry and analytics turned on. - No workspaces/profiles. I know there are extensions that can enable various flavours of this functionality, but it's just too much overhead to experiment and test every-single-one. - Widgets! I lov…

For me the killer feature is tab stacking. It's crazy that no browser other than Presto-era Opera has this feature, that with workspaces is _so_ useful for tab organization.

Re: How to Firefox

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This is really hard to read. I can't get the tone of the article or how I'm supposed to feel about it. Or is it a generation gap, I was born in 2000.

> This is really hard to read. I am old and I agree. It is full of things that break the flow of reading like asking a hypothetical question to the reader and following it up with a plosive like 'BOOM!', or inserting useless conversational stops like like 'sure,' 'But...', and '...Nope!'. Makes it sound/feel like an excited toddler is desperate to tell you something, but cant really get to the point.

Exactly, maybe we are jaded. I like how excited these people are. Even if I can't relate.

Re: How to Firefox

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Name one.

Youtube will after a while.

Google is known to sabotage non-Chrome browsers and ad-blockers on YouTube, accidentally on purpose at every chance it can get. That's hardly Firefox's fault.

2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8606879

2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10877810

2018: https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/91i0mc/youtube...

2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18697824

2019: https://archive.is/tgIH9

2019: https://www.thurrott.com/google/207371/google-now-forces-mic...

2020: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22422522

2023: https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17z8hsz/youtube_ha...

2024: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41379517

2024: https://xcancel.com/brave/status/1870172541907550496

2025: Whatever you're referring to.

Re: How to Firefox

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This is really hard to read. I can't get the tone of the article or how I'm supposed to feel about it. Or is it a generation gap, I was born in 2000.

>I can't get the tone of the article or how I'm supposed to feel about it It's a tech article. What do you expect to feel while reading it?

The author uses a really excited tone and frequent questions like You know what? Guess what? Wow! Boom! Exaggeration obviously, but I like to connect emotionally with the author of whatever I am reading. You can understand a lot more that way than words can convey. I was not able to keep up with such an enthusiastic post that's all.
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