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ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Re: ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Post by chaos_emergent »

Fraterkes wrote: post #304
ddp26 wrote: post #176

Predicted by the AI 2027 team in early April: > Mid 2025: Stumbling Agents The world sees its first glimpse of AI agents. Advertisements for computer-using agents emphasize the term “personal assistant”: you can prompt them with tasks like “order me a burrito on DoorDash” or “open my budget spreadsheet and sum this month’s expenses.” They will check in with you as needed: for example, to ask you to confirm purchases.…

The big crux of AI 2027 is the claims about exponential technological improvement. "Agents" are mostly a new frontend to the same technology openai has been selling for a while. Let's see if we're on track at the start of 2026

The same technology that checks notes has been in the wild for 7 months?

Re: ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Post by pipe2devnull »

OtherShrezzing wrote: post #281
slg wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The proper use of these systems is to treat them like an intern or new grad hire. You can give them the work that none of the mid-tier or senior people want to do, thereby speeding up the team. But you will have to review their work thoroughly because there is a good chance they have no idea what they are actually doing. If you give them mission-critical work that demands accuracy or just let them have free rein with…

I’ve never experienced an intern who was remotely as mediocre and incapable of growth as an LLM.

I have always been told expect an intern to be a net loss in productivity to you and anything else is a bonus since the point is to help them learn.

Re: ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Post by stingraycharles »

twalkz wrote: post #30

The "spreadsheet" example video is kind of funny: guy talks about how it normally takes him 4 to 8 hours to put together complicated, data-heavy reports. Now he fires off an agent request, goes to walk his dog, and comes back to a downloadable spreadsheet of dense data, which he pulls up and says "I think it got 98% of the information correct... I just needed to copy / paste a few things. If it can do 90 - 95% of the…

To be fair, this is also the case with humans: humans make errors as well, and you still need to verify the results.

I once was managing a team of data scientists and my boss kept getting frustrated about some incorrectnesses she discovered, and it was really difficult to explain that this is just human error and it would take lots of resources to ensure 100% correctness.

The same with code.

It’s a cost / benefits balance that needs to be found.

AI just adds another opportunity into this equation.

Re: ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Post by Fraterkes »

chaos_emergent wrote: post #421
Fraterkes wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big crux of AI 2027 is the claims about exponential technological improvement. "Agents" are mostly a new frontend to the same technology openai has been selling for a while. Let's see if we're on track at the start of 2026

The same technology that checks notes has been in the wild for 7 months?

What is your point? We’re talking about the ai 2027 predictions here, which were made 4 months ago. 4 is “checks notes” less than 7

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Post by clbrmbr »

DanHulton wrote: post #208
2oMg3YWV26eKIs wrote: post #167

The security risks with this sound scary. Let's say you give it access to your email and calendar. Now it knows all of your deepest secrets. The linked article acknowledges that prompt injection is a risk for the agent: > Prompt injections are attempts by third parties to manipulate its behavior through malicious instructions that ChatGPT agent may encounter on the web while completing a task. For example, a maliciou…

There is almost guaranteed going to be an attack along the lines of prompt-injecting a calendar invite. Those things are millions of lines long already, with tones of auto-generated text that nobody reads. Embed your injection in the middle of boring text describing the meeting prerequisites and it's as good as written in a transparent font. Then enjoy exfiltrating your victim's entire calendar and who knows what els…

And the way Google calendar works right now, it automatically shows invites on your calendar, even if they are spam. That does not bode well for prompt injection.

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Post by bawana »

slg wrote: post #225
Aurornis wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how it normally takes him 4 to 8 hours to put together complicated, data-heavy reports. Now he fires off an agent request, goes to walk his dog, and comes back to a downloadable spreadsheet of dense data, which he pulls up and says "I think it got 98% of the information correct... This is where the AI hype bites people. A great use of AI in this situation would be to automate the collection and checking of data. Se…

The proper use of these systems is to treat them like an intern or new grad hire. You can give them the work that none of the mid-tier or senior people want to do, thereby speeding up the team. But you will have to review their work thoroughly because there is a good chance they have no idea what they are actually doing. If you give them mission-critical work that demands accuracy or just let them have free rein with…

But LLMs will not move to another company after you train them. OTOH, interns can replace mid level engineers as they learn the ropes in case their boss departs.

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Post by clbrmbr »

nojs wrote: post #411
nicewood wrote: post #390

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When using spec writter and sub-tasking tools like TaskMaster, Kiro, etc. I've experienced Claude Code to take 30-60+ minutes for a more complex feature

Could you explain in more detail how you’re using these tools?

It sounds like they are using —dangerously-skip-permissions.

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Post by [deleted] »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #221
divan wrote: post #218

And I'm still waiting for the simple feature – the ability to edit documents in projects. I use projects for working on different documents - articles, research, scripts, etc. And would absolutely love to write it paragraph after paragraph with the help of ChatGPT for phrasing and using the project knowledge. Or using voice mode - i.e. on a walk "Hey, where did we finish that document - let's continue. Read the last…

>I feel like AI agents for coding are advancing at a breakneck speed, but assistance in writing is still limited to copy-pasting. Man I was talking about this with a colleague 30min ago. Half the time i can't be bothered to open chat gpt and do the copy/paste dance. I know that sounds ridiculous but roundtripping gets old and breaks my flow. Working in NLE's with plug-in's, VTT's, etc. has spoiled me.

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