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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I wrote this post https://maori.geek.nz/small-light-robust-phones-for-a-type-1... that has a bunch of examples of small phones. The requirements are not exactly the same, but in the same boat as for want of good solid small phones. I recommend the pixel 4a 5g with LineageOS installed, or the Q9 mini.

I moved from a Pixel 2 to the Pixel 5 and I'm very happy small phone user.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera.

This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago:

Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a physical keyboard.

There was plenty of evidence, surveys, market studies, trend predictions, devices for these "Messaging-centric" use-cases were always part of this market-demand roster.

But whenever someone answered the call and built a Smartphone with QWERTY keyboard, the product failed commercially, simply because also to people claiming they want such a phone, at the point of sale they were less attractive than their slimmer, lighter, all-screen counterparts.

Every major vendor went through this cycle of learning that lesson, usually with an iteration like "it needs to be a premium high-spec device" --> (didn't sell) --> "ah, it should be mass-market" --> (also didn't sell).

You can find this journey for every vendor. Samsung, LG, HTC, Motorola, Sony.

The same lessons were already learnt for small-screen devices: There was a "Mini" series of Samsung Galaxy, LG G-series, HTC One, Sony Xperia. It didn't sell, the numbers showed that it didn't attract additional customers, at best it only fragmented the existing customer-base.

Source: I work in that industry for a long time now

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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6" doesn't register as small to me at all lol. The HTC 8X was 4.3" and that was a "normal" sized phone for me. I used the Palm Phone (PVG100) (3.3" screen) (basically the size of a credit card) [ https://www.ricklohre.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/dsc_097... ] as long as I could until it became too slow to use as software got slower and increasingly battery-hungry and I had to give it up last year. Right now I have…

you have to compare the actual phone sizes, not the screen sizes. bezels have gotten smaller. the article's "small phone" benchmark with a 5.4" screen is almost the same size in every dimension as your benchmark of the HTC 8x https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/HTC-8XT,Apple-iPhone-...

For me, screen size is what matters. Because I'm using screen. Small bezel is very bad thing, because it registers accidental touches now. Best phone in the history of mankind was iPhone 4S. Perfectly balanced. It's all went downhill since then.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The best phone I ever had was a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact. I would still be using it if it wasn't too slow to run modern versions of android. This is one of those things that just makes me feel so out of touch with the rest of the world. Does everyone else have giant pockets and giant hands? Does everyone use their phone with two hands and carry a bag everywhere? Is it just a trend like small phones were a trend before…

> Why do people want these giant phones? Most people only use computers at work, solely relying on smartphones for communication, media, shopping, etc. It makes sense to have a big screen at inconvenience of having to carry it around. What surprises me is how small the demand for small phones is. I have absolutely no need for a big screen - I have a monitor.

I never ever use my laptop anymore outside of work. I never surf the web, read, order stuff etc from my laptop. It’s basically useless now if I don’t code or use pro apps. So a bigger phone is confortable because some websites suck on smaller screens and using an iPad is too big sometimes

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

Many people in Asia seem to prefer gigantic screens and since it is the largest market, most phones get produced that way.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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post #387

I'm writing this on a Unihertz Jelly Star which is tiny, and I consider it my "protest phone" at the lack of decent small phones. A friend jokingly calls it my "microphone", another a "prison phone" (due to its size allowing for more easily smuggling in body cavities). Occasionally I go to mobile phone shops and ask if they have a case for it just for the fun of seeing the look on their faces when they see it (I don'…

The lack of updates/general software sketchiness is what has me turned off from the Jelly. I know a product like that never has a chance in hell of running Graphene, I’d be way more interested if it could run Lineage.

I run lineage on mine. It's much better than the OS it came with.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago: Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a ph…

Every time I see messages and posts like this, I hope that big companies were being dissatisfied with the product factory scaling issue and device sell effectiveness.

I hope that small companies would launch device like this with 500-1000 devices being created and sold in a year just fulfill the niche and doesn't go bankrupt

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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post #324

Since Google is about to brick my Pixel 6a with the battery botchering update, i find myself in the same struggle again i had when buying the 6a. Basically you have to make compromises on performance and camera and then this was, what i came up with: - Zenfone 10 (flagship with prices still above launch price (!), which soon gets no updates anymore) - Unihertz Jelly Max (small, but thick and bad camera) - Rakuten Han…

Couldn't you put lineage on the zenfone?

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago: Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a ph…

It was ginormous, but I loved my Dell Venue Pro!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Venue_Pro

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