If this is something their users actually wanted, they'd be paying xAI, not the other way around.
Exactly. Which do people think users will be more accepting of: “we sold all your data and chats for 300 million” or “we got paid 300 million to integrate AI”. This is a data sale, pure and simple. xAI certainly isn’t making their money off their LLM/inference. OpenRouter shows Grok at about a billion tokens a day while the top 20 account for 2.5 trillion per day. I’ve suspected Elon expanded his failing strategy to…
Many Telegram groups are only Play Store banned or banned access is restricted based on the user's phone number. This is why you must install the APK from their website directly instead of using an App Store version.
This have nothing to do with Apple. One of largest anti-war public channels in Russia by relatives of mobilized people was marked as "FAKE" for a very long time by Durov's personal decision. Durov serves kremlin as much as any other company that operates in Russia.
It absolutely does have everything to do with Apple. Groups are not only marked "FAKE," they are completely banned for the App Store app users.
This have nothing to do with Apple. One of largest anti-war public channels in Russia by relatives of mobilized people was marked as "FAKE" for a very long time by Durov's personal decision. Durov serves kremlin as much as any other company that operates in Russia.
It absolutely does have everything to do with Apple. Groups are not only marked "FAKE," they are completely banned for the App Store app users.
That is absurdly low given that grok probably will be learning from the inputs. If anything this number should be in the billions. Do telegram users even want this? I thought it was privacy focused app.
> I thought it was privacy focused app.
Not really. It’s what people repeat over and over by ignorance, but it is popular because it has the best UX for a messaging app.
Encrypted chats exist but are opt in and nobody is using them.
I don't understand how Telegram is still around. The app has zero support, even for paid users. You can't rely on it, and unlike Meta products, where at least there is someone to escalate to, in Telegram it's nonexistent. My account was taken over by a malicious actor, and I can't get it restored no matter how many emails and DMs on X I've sent them. Zero response
As someone that has friends on every chat platform out there, I must say that Telegram is the most polished chat app in existence. Everything just works. I notice bugs in WhatsApp all the time, but hardly ever with Tg. Even stuff like video chat and video messages has always been reliable and fast. As a developer, the API is amazing... in 30min you can make a bot and publish it. The real shame is two fold: chats are…
And it has been the most polished chat platform since a decade, they have been just excellent at creating a product people love to use. I really don’t want xAI, so I guess I could switch to WhatsApp, but that would be a downgrade…
I can't help but think this means that all my telegram conversations will now be fed into grok. I'm curious how I'd go about verifying that this is or isn't going to be the case.
Did you have an expectation of privacy using Telegram? I think that's the real issue here. If you were paying for Telegram, then I would say yes, those conversation should not be handed over to xAI. But, if you were ostensibly not paying for it, then I think it should be assumed that use of the service is considered consent to take that and use it as they please. So yeah, it's almost certain that everything you ever…
- Data to train on - Being the first GenAI experience of users that then might associate this stuff with xAi branding.
Not sure I buy your second bullet. Windows has had copilot baked in for a while now, where genai stuff is already possible. Meta has their ai baked into WhatsApp, and probably into instagram as well (not sure though) Google is rolling out gemini on android. I would posit that for a majority of telegram users, xAi is just going to be "yet another AI integration" for them, and it'll be nothing novel.
Where is LLM in my whatsapp? Never seen it, latest version.