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Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Everytime people talked about Mozilla or Firefox the main complaint was Pocket. Everytime. Yet most people here are sad to see it go. What gives?

I'm quite happy about it. I might even print out a tombstone to piss on.

I'd have had no problem with pocket if it'd been an optional plugin. Or, if it'd been optional at all. If I wanted to go around disabling a bunch of browser bloat, I wouldn't be using Firefox.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Safari exists, and is quite popular.

Safari is the only reason we don't rename (yet) Web as ChromeOS development platform. Thanks everyone, especially all those Electron crap apps.

> Thanks everyone, especially all those Electron crap apps.

Electron apps have no stake nor impact of any kind in the results of browser market share. None.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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I think once Apple is forced to allow alternative browsers on the iPhone and iPad, Chrome/Chromium will have won the browser wars. At least Google is a better steward of their browser than Microsoft was with IE6.

That's not going to happen in the USA. at least not in the next several years. I think as long as that's true Safari dominance on iOS will continue.

I don't think people even think about downloading browsers, swear the overwhelming majority of my irl friends only uses the default one on whatever phone, with rare exceptions.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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My little side project has been chugging along for those looking for (harder to use) variation of Pocket. https://tinygem.org The main advantage is that content recommendations based on previously saved content are pretty good, especially for tech oriented crowd.

This is actually promising, kudos!

AI tagging feature like those in Pocket and Karakeep, in the first place, seems helpful. But months later, you will get lots of tags to handle. Content recommendation, especially if that only consider what we saved, can replace the tagging things I guess. I wonder how do you do this for free, though.

Also your HN/Reddit integration is what I'm looking for. The way I save things from HN so far in Karakeep is that I save the main article and add the HN url manually to the note.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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So what did this do?

The comments lead me to believe it was an extension or application for saving web pages in a more readable form for a personal archive type thing.

However the obituary mentions curation and an editorial team.

Did they select the info for you or it was your own choice?

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Wow, after Instapaper went back to indie from Pinterest[1] and Omnivore closing last year this is no longer surprising. This is also proof that read-it-later app as a category is not sustainable as a venture / company backed service. This is also a category of app that I believe could be better served by local-first native apps. As there is no reason why a server has to be requirement to enjoy the full service. Your…

Apple also has a read later service built into Safari. It’s not the most feature rich, but it has existed for several years now. I’d be curious on the stats of these services. Myself, I save a lot of things with good intentions and then never go back to actually read anything later. For a stand alone service, this is the worst. I send them data to store, then never do anything with it. I have to imagine this is quite…

That's indeed the bane of this category of apps. You save it but don't ever go back. Yet we all intuitively want to use it as we can never allocate the right mental space at the right time. Our brain usually are in the browsing mode when we are on social, and needs a slightly different mindset when we are ready to dive into a long read.

I believe there are path forward with this category of apps though. Capturing is just step 0. Self-organizing so retrieval is super easy is step 1. Condensing and summarizing information are also possible with local models or MCP.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Safari only exist on Apple devices, and generally had even less features than Firefox.

> Safari only exist on Apple devices Webkit, at least, builds on a lot more platforms than you think. Take a look at https://build.webkit.org/#/builders I'm seeing at least three other MAJOR platforms: • GTK-Linux-64-bit-Release-Build • PlayStation-Release-Build • Windows-64-bit-Release-Build

WebKit 100% exists on Windows and Linux, Microsoft builds it under the playwright project.

I use it occasionally, only for debugging purposes though.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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So what did this do? The comments lead me to believe it was an extension or application for saving web pages in a more readable form for a personal archive type thing. However the obituary mentions curation and an editorial team. Did they select the info for you or it was your own choice?

It's not important what it is. Pocket was bought overpriced by Mozillas incompetent officers on a project to diversify their income by playing VC. They then decided to piss all over their Firefox browser users by forcefully integrating it with the browser. It was a terrible decision, a terrible business, and now way past its best by date its finally taken out to pasture. Sadly the incompetent officers continue their tenure and soon we'll write this obituary for Mozilla, as their C-level compensation inevitably outstrips what Google is willing to pay for a 1% market share and declining browser.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Have you forgotten Apple and WebKit?

Isn't Chromium a fork of Webkit which is a fork of KHTML?

> Isn't Chromium a fork of Webkit which is a fork of KHTML?

Yes… 12 years ago: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/googl...

They are quite different now.

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