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> Seriously, this is one of the top 10 largest companies in the world, and they're playing chicken with the court in order to preserve their ongoing revenue. Maybe that is a result of the attitudes that made them one of the largest companies in the world?
Other way around. Too big to fail and individual employees are too isolated from any consequences so they have no reason to give a shit.
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Apple News+ link: https://apple.news/AlNSjMktVT9afQICM2yRVYw
why do we want an apple link that just redirects to the original article? is this just "look at me i'm a mac user" levels of spam?
If you view it on an Apple device, it takes you to the Apple News app and opens it there, rather than redirecting.
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This worries me beyond anti-competitive stuff. If Tim Cook is willing to lie and cheat for extra revenue, I can't trust that Apple is honest about their privacy commitments. Services revenue line must keep going up, and their ad business is a growth opportunity.
Similar to how Google merged with DoubleClick and threw out the whole "don't be evil" policy. My luke-warm take is that the advertising industry is inherently evil.
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>“I don't consider the bloody ROI.” He said that the same thing about environmental issues, worker safety, and other areas where Apple is a leader. ...and you believed him? I'm sorry, I'm trying to be less cynical in life, but he said exactly what people - apple fans - want to hear. Is he above lying? We were just discussing how one of the apple executives straight up lied in court .
Belief within limits, yes. At least, I can only think of a couple of possible explanations for the event: 1. Cook only cares about pursuing profits, but at a shareholder meeting where shareholders were pressuring him to pursue profits, he lied to them (and had the presence of mind and acting chops to pretend to be uncharacteristically angry about it), because he believed that the story would get reported on and Apple…
#1 seems more probable given a human being that has been selected to head one of the most valuable companies on the planet. That's his entire job -- to play a carefully crafted role for the public, the share holders and the media. He isn't paid to stand up at a shareholder meeting and let any sort of genuine feelings slip through, unless those feelings happen to be the right ones for that role at that moment.
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This worries me beyond anti-competitive stuff. If Tim Cook is willing to lie and cheat for extra revenue, I can't trust that Apple is honest about their privacy commitments. Services revenue line must keep going up, and their ad business is a growth opportunity.
Their privacy commitments align with their business, not their morals. They don't want an open internet primarily funded by advertising, so they make harder for advertising companies to track their users. What they want is an internet silod into apps you get from their app store, that are funded buy subscriptions and IAPs that they get a 30% cut from.
“They don’t want so they choose ”
https://assets.msn.com/content/view/v2/Detail/en-in/AA1DXcJN
Read the opinion:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.36...
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The most shocking thing to me about that isn't the malicious compliance, but that even after a court injunction, and fully knowing that there could be subsequent discovery, they have people putting something like that in writing . Seriously, this is one of the top 10 largest companies in the world, and they're playing chicken with the court in order to preserve their ongoing revenue. These weren't random employees, b…
"The most shocking thing to me about that isn't the malicious compliance, but that even after a court injunction, and fully knowing that there could be subsequent discovery, they have people putting something like that in writing." Keep in mind that once you lose, the process is no longer adversarial. In ~all cases you will be required to provide evidence and status updates and such on implementation of an injunction…
I would argue that the text the parent comment has pulled out is not part of the record keeping you need to do to comply. Lawyers will tell you to have certain conversations in person, and it is surprising that some of these conversations happened in text instead of in person.
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why do we want an apple link that just redirects to the original article? is this just "look at me i'm a mac user" levels of spam?
I believe this is a way to use their own apple news subscription to access the article instead of using the archive version: It only redirects if you're not logged in to apple news.
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The most shocking thing to me about that isn't the malicious compliance, but that even after a court injunction, and fully knowing that there could be subsequent discovery, they have people putting something like that in writing . Seriously, this is one of the top 10 largest companies in the world, and they're playing chicken with the court in order to preserve their ongoing revenue. These weren't random employees, b…
they did try to hide some of this stuff, by abusing attorney client privilege, which is one of the reasons the judge is SO pissed at them.
I don't know a thing about the legal system: if someone gets caught doing that sort of thing, does that incur additional punishments?
I mean, if you do something illegal, and when the police arrest you they prove that you were trying to hide it from them, that's another charge. How does that work if the court catches you doing it?
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Therefore it's better to stay the hell away from companies who actively seek to take away your freedom.
I don't think there are any companies that care one way or the other about taking away your freedom. Companies are revenue maximizers, period. The ones that aren't quickly get displaced by ones that are. The simpler test is to stay away from any company that has anything to gain by taking away your freedom. THAT unfortunately is most of them. The depressing reality in consumer tech is that anything with a CPU doesn't…