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The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I've gotten in the habit of straight out calling out these people, including throwing them out of my house when they start down this road. They tend to have some form of serious mental illness and/or a major substance problem they're not interested in addressing, which leads to emotional dysregulation. So not exactly great people to have around anyway. Have I lost friends over it? Yes. But that's fine, having no frie…

I would not punish them for having a mental illness, I am understanding of it as I have, too, but it is completely fine if you, yourself, do not want to handle or deal with it. I tend to call people out, too. I keep the ones that take it gracefully. Quality > quantity. :)

Yeah, I try to give people some grace but if their behavior is repeatedly disruptive over a period of months to years, eventually something has to give. Everyone needs to have some boundaries.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I think Substack fills that gap for me. If you haven't already explored it then by the sounds of it I think you'd like it. It functions more as a platform for blogs, but if you use the app there are blog-specific group chats, you can follow people, and the home page contains 'notes' that are pretty tweet-like in format. Once you have a collection of say 15-20 blogs that your subscribed to I found that the notes I got…

It’s funny, because I took the suggestion and went thru the substack sign up process (which wanted email, phone number, contacts, and interests.. not exactly lightweight). The first thing they show you is a feed, a never ending scroller. I don’t get an intro to any channel - it seems like Twitter for writers. Half the stuff I subscribed to (you can’t peek in the onboarding) was absolutely written by ChatGPT, emoji he…

Thats funny, I have had a substack account for a couple years and haven't seen this infinite feed. It seems like LiveJournal 2.0 the way I use it.

I agree that required post emails is user hostile, but trivially mitigated with email filters. From substack -> trash [omit any you want]

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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This has moved heavily into group chats and I’m not sure it’s coming back. Group chats are basically the Circles that Google+ saw the need for but could never get fully set up. A lot of people don’t want to share personal updates and photos to a broad swath of friends and acquaintances. Meanwhile Instagram and Facebook keep evolving. Facebook is turning into a weird Reddit for older people. Instagram is turning into…

Any way you cut it, "feeds" are more addictive. Your family and friends only post a couple times a day, but you have all day at work to look for some quick stimulation. I watch my girlfriend devolve into this stuff. Waking up and scrolling endless feeds from reddit and insta; it's her entertainment. It's not so much worse than me waking up and scrolling Google News...maybe it's better, in that she gets less depressed…

>Ironically, the nice people at the other pub who told me are Lebanese.

Why is it ironic that an Arab would be nice to you? Ignoring the racial/national assumption here, political views from diasporic Arabs, especially older ones who immigrated many years ago, are incredibly diverse and often more contingent on their local issues than world politics. People make the same mistake when assuming political views towards Mexico from Latinos (both Tejano and Mexican) in Texas, for example.

>my old antifa "friends"

Most antifa folks are gonna have a very clear cut moral stance on the state of Israel, even before Hamas' military began the Al-Aqsa Flood operation. Be honest now, have they distanced themselves from you because of your identity, or is it because of your opinions on the actions of the state of Israel? Because even the most hardline "antifa" types I know are more than happy to organize with the likes of SJP and similar organizations of Jewish and Israeli people.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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My sense is that Twitter’s fall was an opportunity for a lot of people to just drop out. I know for me it’s become a very occasional thing and neither Bluesky nor Mastodon ever achieved critical mass. As far as I’m concerned the format is largely done. Never engaged with the political stuff.

> My sense is that Twitter’s fall was an opportunity for a lot of people to just drop out. Yeah, that was the case for me. I used Twitter quite a bit from about 2012 through 2020, but I was already phasing it out when the takeover happened, so it was an easy call to just close my account. While I do have an IG and Bsky account, I rarely use them. So Twitter's death basically meant the end of my mainstream social medi…

Yeah I cut it by accident during the pandemic. It already sucked then - person you follow liked this is what did me in. Elon just finished it off.

I suspended my account, without realising if I left it for n days it would be deleted. Went back one day and there was someone else with my handle. Actually felt relieved as the whole thing was gone. Didn’t get a chance to worry about an archive.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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Friend circles can be just as bad at excluding or ostracising others in the group for the pettiest of reasons. There’s always going to be a shot caller or instigator behind it and everyone else who is weak willed will get on board with it.

Had a long-time friend group explode last year over this. Years of behind-their-backs shit-stirring lies by a couple members of the group finally got figured out and called out, publicly, which lit the fuse. Exact same behavior that was called out was immediately employed to try to spin that and get these people's "enemies" pushed out of the group, which was the bomb going off. About half the group survived with some…

That sounds extremely toxic. I would not even consider such people friends to begin with.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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ITT: people deriding social media as a concept while also correctly pointing out the feeds on Zuckerberg owned products completely suck

People have been demanding 'please just let me see what my friends post' for YEARS

It's (probably) not going to change

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1692122

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I read Facebook with the special URL[1] that gives a traditional reverse chronological feed (plus ads, of course), but it's all my friends and family. Unfortunately, some of my family post insane political views, usually about now in the early AM. Being told that a King of the USA and the elimination of due process are good things doesn't help my mental health. [1] https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

While there will always be unhinged relatives, maybe the problem would be less pronounced without the polarization that comes with the networks pushing polarizing posts into their faces in their never ending quest for more "engagement" by users.

It's important to note that this is not a new or unique feature of social media. At least in our lifetimes, conservative moguls have always had a habit of buying up as many media outlets as possible and polarizing the constituency with unhinged stories. Before social media (everything I don't like is woke), it was cable news (Obamacare means death panels for your grandmother, stay tuned), before that it was talk radio (Rush Limbaugh calling Bill Clinton an extreme leftist), before that, it was the papers (get a load of this nerd Dukakis in a tank, in this op ed...). Today, it's all of the above.

If anything is different today, it's not that social media makes things easier or faster, because we've always had 24/7 talking heads on TV or the radio, we had dailies with evening editions, etc. It's that consolidation is even more prevalent today.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I do judge people who post thought leadership on LinkedIn about the same as people who are really into pro wrestling.

I bet you also tell the Mormons to take a hike when they come visit.

Honestly, I'm really nice to the LDS when they drop by.

My experience has been that Mormons are generally self-aware, polite, and willing the engage in interesting conversation.

In contrast, LinkedIn influencers' eyes glaze over whenever you try to dig into the details of what they're purporting to talk about. Because, ugh, nerd stuff that's beneath them.

Re: The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

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I have been experimenting with using smartphones only for phone calls, SMS messaging and services like Uber or airbnb. No content consumption whatsoever. It's been a bliss. I don't over consume, I have more time to get things done now, and it's sort of obvious but everything feels better with bigger screens and keyboard and mouse. Look at HN as an example, if I see a post on here that is related to some programming t…

> and it's sort of obvious but everything feels better with bigger screens and keyboard and mouse.

Using the Youtube app on my phone shocks me every time. I'm so used to an add blocker on my pc's big screen.

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