You can get your HN profile analyzed and roasted by it. It's pretty funny :) https://hn-wrapped.kadoa.com/ I'll add a selection for different models soon.
How is this relevant to Gemini 2.5 Flash? I guess it's using it or something?
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#422You can get your HN profile analyzed and roasted by it. It's pretty funny :) https://hn-wrapped.kadoa.com/ I'll add a selection for different models soon.
This is cool.
Does it only use a few recent comments or entire history? I'm trying to figure out where it figured out my city when I thought I was careful not to reveal it. I'm scrolling back pages without finding where I said it in the past. Could it have inferred it based on other information or hallucinated it?
I wonder if there's a more opsec-focused version of this.
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Another useful word in this context is “sycophancy,” meaning excessive flattery or insincere agreement. Amanda Askell of Anthropic has used it to describe a trait they try to suppress in Claude: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ugvHCXCOmm4&t=10286
The second example she uses is really important. You (used to) see this a lot in stackoverflow where an inexperienced programmer asks how to do some convoluted thing. Sure, you can explain how to do the thing while maintaining their artificial constraints. But much more useful is to say "you probably want to approach the problem like this instead". It is surely a difficult problem and context dependent.
XY problem
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another advantage is people want the Google bot to crawl their pages, unlike most AI companies
Reddit was an interesting case here. They knew that they had particularly good AI training data, and they were able to hold it hostage from the Google crawler, which was an awfully high risk play given how important Google search results are to Reddit ads, but they likely knew that Reddit search results were also really important to Google. I would love to be able to watch those negotiations on each side; what a craz…
Particularly good training data?
You can't mean the bottom-of-the-barrel dross that people post on Reddit, so not sure what data you are referring to? Click-stream?
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#425I want to think that this is all great, but the fact that this is also one of the best way to collect unsuspecting user data by default without explicit consent just doesn't feel right -- that applies to most people who would never have a chance reading this comment.
I don't want to be angry but screw these default opt-in to have your privacy violated free stuff.
Before you jump in to say you can pay to keep your privacy, stop and read again.
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#426More great innovation from Google. OpenAI have two major problems. The first is Google's vertically integrated chip pipeline and deep supply chain and operational knowledge when it comes to creating AI chips and putting them into production. They have a massive cost advantage at every step. This translates into more free services, cheaper paid services, more capabilities due to more affordable compute, and far more g…
> The smart money among his investors know these issues to be fundamental in deciding if OAI will succeed or not, and are asking the hard questions. OpenAI has already succeeded. If it ends up being a $100B company instead of a $10T company, that is success. By a very large margin. It's hard to imagine a world in which OpenAI just goes bankrupt and ends up being worth nothing.
I can, and I would say it's a likely scenario, say 30%. If they don't have a significant edge over their competitors in the capabilities of their models, what's left? A money losing web app, and some API services that I'm sure aren't very profitable either. They can't compete with Google, Grok, Meta, MS, Amazon... They just can't.
They can end being the Altavista of this era.
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#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
We don't know how to implement a "deterministic, repeatable process" that can look at a bug in a repo and implement a fix end-to-end.
that is not what OP was talking about though.
LLMs are literally stochastic, so the point is the same no matter what the example application is.
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Google has killed so many amazing businesses -- entire industries, even, by giving people something expensive for free until the competition dies, and then they enshittify hard. It's cool to have access to it, but please be careful not to mistake corporate loss leaders for authentic products.
True. They are ONLY good when they have competition. The sense of complacency that creeps in is so obvious as a customer. To this day, the Google Home (or is it called Nest now?) speaker is the only physical product i've ever owned where it lost features over time. I used to be able to play the audio of a Youtube video (like a podcast) through it, but then Google decided that it was very very important that I only be…
I'm experiencing the same problem with my Google Home ecosystem. One day I can turn off the living room lights with the simple phrase "Turn off Living Room Lights," and then randomly for two straight days it doesn't understand my command
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Nobody has really talked about what I think is an advantage just as powerful as the custom chips: Google Books. They already won a landmark fair use lawsuit against book publishers, digitized more books than anyone on earth, and used their Captcha service to crowdsource its OCR. They've got the best* legal cover and all of the best sources of human knowledge already there. Then Youtube for video. The chips of course…
LibGen already exists, and all the top LLM publishers use it. I don't know if Google's own book index provides a big technical or legal advantage.
I'd be very surprised if the Google books index wasn't much bigger and more diverse than libgen.
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Another advantage that Google has is the deep integration of Gemini into Google Office products and Gmail. I was part of a pilot group and got to use a pre-release version and it's really powerful and not something that will be easy for OpenAI to match.
You say deep integration, yet there is still no way to send a Gemini Canvas to Docs without a lot of tedious copy-pasting and formatting because Docs still doesn’t actually support markdown. Gemini in Google Office in general has been a massive disappointment for all but the most simplistic of writing tasks. They can have the most advanced infrastructure in the world, but it doesn’t mean much if Google continues its…
Docs supports markdown in comments, where it's the only way to get formatting.
I love Googles product dysfunction sometimes :/